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To: daniel1212

You haven’t provided the examples you keep referring to. Why are you avoiding this?


67 posted on 02/19/2014 11:03:34 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
You haven’t provided the examples you keep referring to. Why are you avoiding this?

WHY??? Because while i certainly have examples of atheists who disagree with you, ready to provide when you clarified, as asked, what you mean by fornication, and how it relates to homosexual marriage. And also actually deal with the real issue, but it is YOU who keeps avoiding this, while resorting to your usual ad hominem non-sense about being me being "weasel-worded," "a certified moron," etc.

Which is only an extension of your redundant expressions of scorn for God and religion on this proGod forum, which occasions you seem to look for.

Thus what you have done once again is avoid answering what might incriminate you, and which evasion and crass insults has thereby rendered yourself as unfit for further attempts at meaningful exchange. Which, after seeking to antagonize, is perhaps your wish, but simply supplies more evidence against atheism. Now that you will be ignored then perhaps you may actually deal with the real issue. Or resort once more to spitballs.

But for the record, here is a little of the conclusions of your atheistic comrades based on their reasoning, whom you can debate with, which still does not change the fact, but works to illustrate, that atheism cannot point to an accepted transcendent standard which defines morality, and by which they are judged.

For Atheists? Well, it’s a case of whatever legal activity rings your bell, or floats your boat, or raises your flagpole. Homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, one at a time or in multiples…it doesn’t really matter. If you are curious about something, go ahead and try it out. If you like it, great, and if not then don’t do it again. But there are no eternal consequences one way or another. You will not spend sleepless nights contemplating ultimate damnation in your final years agonizing over a single homoerotic encounter in your teens. Have fun, and see if it works for you. Who knows? You might find a new hobby...

You have to obey the laws that apply where you live or happen to be at the time, but otherwise you are free to enjoy your own sexuality without guilt. You still have the humanistic values that apply to those relationships: namely, you don’t harm others, you are honest with people, you don’t exploit people, etc. But within those moral precepts, you are free to enjoy yourself in whatever way is best for you. - See more at: http://www.atheistrepublic.com/blog/deandrasek/five-reasons-why-sex-can-be-better-atheists#sthash.p70ZM5Qc.dpuf — http://www.atheistrepublic.com/blog/deandrasek/five-reasons-why-sex-can-be-better-atheists#sthash.p70ZM5Qc.dpuf

Fornication is not in and of itself inherently evil....While I would agree that adultery is not appropriate conduct, I would not take my view so far as to believe that every sexual relationship outside of a monogamous marriage is necessarily evil.

On the whole I do not agree with Aquinas on homosexuality or sexual morality...Homosexuality, sexual urges, desires, and fetishes are all natural. As such, I find I disagree with Aquinas completely. - http://atheismandmorality.blogspot.com/2011/11/religious-morality-and-homosexual-sin.html

Now we all agree that sex with very young people is indeed immoral, and it’s recognized as such by laws in many places. But unmarried sex? That’s not a sin, but a great blessing. — http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/sin-of-the-day-fornication-2/ Rational people now recognize that there’s nothing immoral about being in love with, and having sex with, someone of the same gender. — http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/sin-of-the-day-homosexuality/

>Yes, gays are asking the body-politic to recognize their relationships as being kinship bonds — and there is no good reason why they shouldn’t be so recognized. There is nothing about the relationships of straight couples which makes them any more “worthy” of legal, social, and moral obligations we traditionally structure as “marriage.” - http://atheism.about.com/od/gaymarriage/a/whymarriage_4.htm

What a poster said a while ago sums it up quite well,

That's just it - atheists cannot have any objective moral standards. They are necessarily ethical scavengers. When an atheist tries to discuss moral issues with a theist, they usually do so by completely miscomprehending the theists starting point, and then try to play little "gotcha" games that are based off of those miscomprehensions.

68 posted on 02/19/2014 7:12:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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