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To: neverdem

“The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit handed gun rights advocates a major victory today by invalidating San Diego, California’s requirement that conceal-carry permits only be issued to those gun owners who have a “good cause” to carry a concealed gun in public. According to local officials, “one’s personal safety is not considered good cause.”

We have the same bs up in Northern California. Due to the increases and constant threat of criminal attacks in many of my fly fishing areas, I don’t go to those places any more.

Then come two more problems:

1. C&C permits are only granted for the county you live in. I seldom fish, hike or kayak in remote parts of my county. So if I ever got a permit, it would only be valid in my county not in the many other areas I would like fly fish, hike or kayak in.

2. Here in my county, even without a traffic violation, I can’t get a C&C permit for my personal safety, my wife’s or any grand kid with me.

It has been suggested that I get a waterproof pistol and carry it in plain sight when, I fly fish, hike, kayak or even drive in some areas.


17 posted on 02/13/2014 1:04:13 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Grampa Dave
The 9th Circuit panel here held that bans on open carry and near-blanket refusals of concealed carry applications are unconstitutional, i.e., the government has to choose which of the two it really wants. That is a reasonable holding. IMO the near-blanket refusals of concealed carry permits will ultimately be determined by the US Supreme Court, but the 9th Circuit holding here will likely be upheld by an en banc review. Certainly the Supreme Court will uphold it.

But California state & local governments will fight everything to the end. We just now know how it will end on open carry. That's not something local governments can restrict - only the state government can.

28 posted on 02/13/2014 1:44:04 PM PST by Thud
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To: Grampa Dave
C&C permits are only granted for the county you live in.

You sure about that? I have a friend with a concealed carry permit (He lives north of Guernville) and he told me it's good for the entire state of California. I did a search on the Internet and found nothing on point.

30 posted on 02/13/2014 1:46:05 PM PST by choirboy
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To: Grampa Dave
1. C&C permits are only granted for the county you live in. I seldom fish, hike or kayak in remote parts of my county. So if I ever got a permit, it would only be valid in my county not in the many other areas I would like fly fish, hike or kayak in.

According to usacarry.com, the permit allows you carry throughout the state. The picture of the CA license seems to bear this out:


36 posted on 02/13/2014 2:30:06 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Grampa Dave
C&C permits are only granted for the county you live in

Good grief; that is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

38 posted on 02/13/2014 2:50:48 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Grampa Dave

I understood CCW issued in any county to be valid in all counties.

The only problem is defining counties who have settled on policy:

Shall issue

May issue

Siskyou is a shall issue and they have to look for a reason not to give you CCW, which is valid in all counties.

Santa Clara County is a “May Issue” and Laurie is a political gal. She just won’t issue them.


40 posted on 02/13/2014 3:25:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Grampa Dave

What the hell does fly fishing, hiking or kayaking have to do with the right to carry a firearm?


46 posted on 02/13/2014 4:21:00 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Grampa Dave

A permit is issued by the county or city you live or own a business in, but it’s good for whole state. Up until now it’s been up to the local government to issue or not as the choose.


72 posted on 02/14/2014 9:49:54 AM PST by Hugin
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