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Hawaiian health director died of irregular heartbeat after plane crash
USNEWS.NBCNEWS.COM ^ | Daniel Arkin, Staff Writer, NBC News

Posted on 02/09/2014 10:49:33 AM PST by FreeAtlanta

Authorities say the cause of death for the Hawaii health director who died after an airplane crashed off the island of Molokai was cardiac arrhythmia — an irregular heartbeat. Loretta Fuddy died due to the stress from the horrific Dec. 11 plunge into the water after the si …

Article Link: Hawaiian health director died of irregular heartbeat after plane crash - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/13/22294162-hawaiian-health-director-died-of-irregular-heartbeat-after-plane-crash?lite)


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barrycide; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; hawaii; kenyanbornmuzzie; lorettafuddy; maui; naturalborncitizen
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To: cynwoody

did you see this?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/59849


82 posted on 02/09/2014 6:12:56 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

did you see this?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/59849

From your link:

Despite the fact that the plane remains unrecovered and lays on the ocean floor of the Pacific, ABC News stated that Makani Kai Air airline owner Richard Schuman determined that “engine failure” was the cause of the crash. This, despite reports from the owner that the crashed plane has no prior reports of mechanical problems. A reasonable person might ask how this could be known without first inspecting the plane, especially since the plane had a clean inspection and maintenance record, according to the same airline owner.

Reasonable persons do not write for Canada Free Press. It's even nuttier than World Nut Daily.

It was the pilot, Clyde Kawasaki, who "determined" that there was engine failure (and proceeded to deal with the emergency with a high degree of competence). It's quite nauseating how moron Hagmann tries to gin up suspicion.

Also, witnesses much closer to the scene than the circling pilot reported that Fuddy had exited the airplane and was OK before she wasn't. Moreover, neither of the Coast Guardsmen who dealt with Fuddy, PJ Ornot and Mark Peer, reported having to retrieve her body from the airplane. She was floating in the water along with the live victims (except for the 71-year-old who swam to shore). Link.

No sane person believes Fuddy was assassinated. And no sane assassin would come up with such a cockamamie murder plot.

83 posted on 02/09/2014 7:11:12 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Sacajaweau

“I thought I read that there was no way to determine that after death.”

That is correct.... a cardiac arrhythmia is not a static
condition, it’s finding observed real time when a patient
is attached to an EKG monitor. Even if she had been under a doctor’s care and he had observed arrhythmias during an
EKG that is not proof that she had an arrhythmia at the time
of the crash...it’s merely an indicator.

To say somebody died from an arrhythmia is a cop out and not proveable unless their heart ceased beating WHILE attached to a cardiac monitor AND the arrhythmias were observed by a competent medical professional. If not...
it’s just a guess.


84 posted on 02/09/2014 7:42:34 PM PST by nvscanman ( Jo)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Poppers? (amyl/butyl nitrate)


85 posted on 02/09/2014 8:10:49 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: cynwoody
And no sane assassin would come up with such a cockamamie murder plot.

What better defense?

Like so much this administration has undeniably done, the more outrageous, the more easily dismissed as the product of fertile imaginations.

86 posted on 02/09/2014 8:19:41 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

The ONLY conclusion to be drawn from the condition of the recovered pile of aircraft parts is that the resultant pile of sh!t was THE goal of the recovery. SOMEONE brought the aircraft to the surface with such speed as to completely destroy the aircraft. Imagine if this was Amelia Earhart’s aircraft, or the Titanic, or John F Kennedy Jr’s aircraft.

THE negligence of the salvage / recovery operation producing a pile of unrecognizable debris is even more suspicious than Fuddy’s demise.

When I ran across this image weeks ago, I thought my search effort had detected a generalized compilation of images, because I had not entered a specific enough syntax in my search, so I passed on this image as being unrelated to the crash.


87 posted on 02/09/2014 8:33:24 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

OK- trying to be logical or rational in my response- did the aircraft accelerate in it’s descent to the ocean floor, and break up on impact? I will concede to the laws of physics, with one question... does an object accelerate under water to any degree that it does above water? 32 feet squared?


88 posted on 02/09/2014 8:48:25 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup
SOMEONE brought the aircraft to the surface with such speed as to completely destroy the aircraft.

Please take your meds.

This incident is very straight-forward. The aircraft suffered an engine failure and landed on the water about as nicely as could be expected, given it was not a sea plane. And the pilot and the passengers all survived, except for the one passenger who had a fatal cardiac problem.

89 posted on 02/09/2014 9:15:39 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
No sane person believes Fuddy was assassinated. And no sane assassin would come up with such a cockamamie murder plot.
Suppose for the sake of argument that aka obama's feral government minions did indeed assassinate Fuddy. What would be a plausible method centered around the plane crash?

They certainly could arrange to stop the engine shortly after take off. But they couldn't know what the outcome would be other than it would provide a very good explanation for a dead Fuddy. It wouldn't matter to them if all on board died (in fact, they would expect and want at least some injuries or deaths as part of the cover up), but to be certain that Fuddy died, they would have had to have slipped her a delayed action drug or poison shortly before the flight. To suppose an on board assassin is just too far fetched, in my opinion.

Also, to suppose that Fuddy's dead body was not in her casket at the funeral with so many witnesses is equally far fetched. But murder is not at all out of the question.

Aka obama's digital birth certificate has been proven to be a forgery rather than a valid image of an existing paper document. It is very likely that Fuddy was fully aware of the forgery and was criminally complicit in creating it and hiding the truth about whatever documentation the Hawaiian Department of Health actually has about aka obama's origins. It is quite possible Fuddy was about to crack and testify the full story under oath in order to save her own skin or that aka obama's minions at least feared she would.

One thing is certain - dead Fuddys tell no tales. And aka obama already has too many suspiciously dead bodies in his wake not to at least consider that Fuddy might be the latest to go ker-thump, ker-thump under wheels of his criminal thug-mobile.

90 posted on 02/10/2014 12:28:33 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: cynwoody

The damage to the aircraft was not incurred in the landing to the degree with which we see it after recovery. Take out the conspiracy quotient and you’ve still got a sloppy salvage operation. Might not matter a twit to the insurance company. I’m sure the FAA accident investigators would have preferred an intact aircraft to inspect versus that pile of parts. I did posit (infer) that the damage may have incurred with the sinking and subsequent impact into the ocean floor. Having been a skydiver, I understand terminal velocity above water... but not so much under water.

The meds I take won’t help me here.


91 posted on 02/10/2014 3:32:15 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup
The salvager said the airplane broke up after sinking, due to wave action in some heavy seas during the week it spent on the bottom:
"The wings were separate. The fuselage was separate. The engine was separate from rolling on the rocks in the swell," Patrick Ross said.

The Cessna Grand Caravan sat aboard the salvage vessel Kahana at Pier 29 Thursday morning. Ross said sections of the plane were scattered across a 100-foot-long debris field. It took his crew about ten hours to float all the pieces to the surface.

The NTSB investigator, Jim Struhsaker, said the wreckage was actually in better shape than he feared.

In any case, the cause of the crash is known to be engine failure. What remains to be determined is what caused the engine to fail. They are shipping the recovered engine back to the manufacturer to make that determination. It is really the only part of the wreckage that matters.

92 posted on 02/10/2014 11:45:19 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: FreeAtlanta; Fred Nerks; Brown Deer; null and void; butterdezillion

Pinging a few names to this thread in case you haven’t seen it.

Don’t all hearts get irregular when the person dies?


93 posted on 02/10/2014 11:56:47 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: elengr
They certainly could arrange to stop the engine shortly after take off. But they couldn't know what the outcome would be other than it would provide a very good explanation for a dead Fuddy. It wouldn't matter to them if all on board died (in fact, they would expect and want at least some injuries or deaths as part of the cover up), but to be certain that Fuddy died, they would have had to have slipped her a delayed action drug or poison shortly before the flight. To suppose an on board assassin is just too far fetched, in my opinion.

If they were up for that, it would have made a lot more sense to plant a bomb on the airplane, set to go off at altitude over deep water. A big enough bomb to make sure Kawasaki would not get on the radio during descent. That way, the airplane would simply vanish for unknown reasons, and recovery would not be attempted.

94 posted on 02/10/2014 12:03:23 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: smokingfrog

Yes, that’s what Keith Yamamoto claims.


95 posted on 02/10/2014 12:26:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: livius
One of the people around her said that she was ok but upset and then she suddenly sank and was just gone.

I suppose it's neither here nor there, but I would like to say she didn't sink, she was wearing a life-preserver jacket which kept her head out of the water.

96 posted on 02/10/2014 12:31:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: little jeremiah

I posted a fuzzy screencap of what looks like Fuddy floating pale faced and obviously very un-alive before she was picked up by the rescue team. To the people who want to know why Yamamoto didn’t keep hold of her I would say, would you hang onto a dead woman for an hour in choppy water knowing that it’s impossible to try to revive her while treading water?
If I wanted to silence Fuddy I would have found a much easier and better way. Like feed her a dozen donuts and chase her with a bear. She was obese and unfit.


97 posted on 02/10/2014 12:44:38 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

Since Arpaio and Zullo have said they consider it a sad accident, I’ll go with that until/unless something else is known.


98 posted on 02/10/2014 9:38:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: nvscanman; Sacajaweau; Moonman62; null and void; F15Eagle; Focault's Pendulum; pieceofthepuzzle; ...
My doc friend confirmed to me what has been said above: unless the patient is still alive, there is no way to detect an arrhythmia. What seals the deal is the information that "Deliana" had no history of a heart condition, according to her family. To conjecture an arrhythmia in the absence of previous history and without any recorded information from something like a pacemaker, this coroner has totally gone over the cliff into unfounded speculation and conjecture, abandoning all supported medical science.

One is left to wonder what pressures were brought to bear on this decision and by whom such pressure might have come.

Was the coroner's name Famy, from Arkansas, FOB? If so, there would be a relevant precedent.

HF

99 posted on 02/17/2014 8:48:59 AM PST by holden
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To: holden

Bad Coroner! NO ARSENIC FOR YOU!


100 posted on 02/17/2014 9:14:46 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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