Posted on 02/09/2014 10:49:33 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
did you see this?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/59849
From your link:
Despite the fact that the plane remains unrecovered and lays on the ocean floor of the Pacific, ABC News stated that Makani Kai Air airline owner Richard Schuman determined that “engine failure” was the cause of the crash. This, despite reports from the owner that the crashed plane has no prior reports of mechanical problems. A reasonable person might ask how this could be known without first inspecting the plane, especially since the plane had a clean inspection and maintenance record, according to the same airline owner.
Reasonable persons do not write for Canada Free Press. It's even nuttier than World Nut Daily.
It was the pilot, Clyde Kawasaki, who "determined" that there was engine failure (and proceeded to deal with the emergency with a high degree of competence). It's quite nauseating how moron Hagmann tries to gin up suspicion.
Also, witnesses much closer to the scene than the circling pilot reported that Fuddy had exited the airplane and was OK before she wasn't. Moreover, neither of the Coast Guardsmen who dealt with Fuddy, PJ Ornot and Mark Peer, reported having to retrieve her body from the airplane. She was floating in the water along with the live victims (except for the 71-year-old who swam to shore). Link.
No sane person believes Fuddy was assassinated. And no sane assassin would come up with such a cockamamie murder plot.
“I thought I read that there was no way to determine that after death.”
That is correct.... a cardiac arrhythmia is not a static
condition, it’s finding observed real time when a patient
is attached to an EKG monitor. Even if she had been under a doctor’s care and he had observed arrhythmias during an
EKG that is not proof that she had an arrhythmia at the time
of the crash...it’s merely an indicator.
To say somebody died from an arrhythmia is a cop out and not proveable unless their heart ceased beating WHILE attached to a cardiac monitor AND the arrhythmias were observed by a competent medical professional. If not...
it’s just a guess.
Poppers? (amyl/butyl nitrate)
What better defense?
Like so much this administration has undeniably done, the more outrageous, the more easily dismissed as the product of fertile imaginations.
The ONLY conclusion to be drawn from the condition of the recovered pile of aircraft parts is that the resultant pile of sh!t was THE goal of the recovery. SOMEONE brought the aircraft to the surface with such speed as to completely destroy the aircraft. Imagine if this was Amelia Earhart’s aircraft, or the Titanic, or John F Kennedy Jr’s aircraft.
THE negligence of the salvage / recovery operation producing a pile of unrecognizable debris is even more suspicious than Fuddy’s demise.
When I ran across this image weeks ago, I thought my search effort had detected a generalized compilation of images, because I had not entered a specific enough syntax in my search, so I passed on this image as being unrelated to the crash.
OK- trying to be logical or rational in my response- did the aircraft accelerate in it’s descent to the ocean floor, and break up on impact? I will concede to the laws of physics, with one question... does an object accelerate under water to any degree that it does above water? 32 feet squared?
Please take your meds.
This incident is very straight-forward. The aircraft suffered an engine failure and landed on the water about as nicely as could be expected, given it was not a sea plane. And the pilot and the passengers all survived, except for the one passenger who had a fatal cardiac problem.
No sane person believes Fuddy was assassinated. And no sane assassin would come up with such a cockamamie murder plot.Suppose for the sake of argument that aka obama's feral government minions did indeed assassinate Fuddy. What would be a plausible method centered around the plane crash?
They certainly could arrange to stop the engine shortly after take off. But they couldn't know what the outcome would be other than it would provide a very good explanation for a dead Fuddy. It wouldn't matter to them if all on board died (in fact, they would expect and want at least some injuries or deaths as part of the cover up), but to be certain that Fuddy died, they would have had to have slipped her a delayed action drug or poison shortly before the flight. To suppose an on board assassin is just too far fetched, in my opinion.
Also, to suppose that Fuddy's dead body was not in her casket at the funeral with so many witnesses is equally far fetched. But murder is not at all out of the question.
Aka obama's digital birth certificate has been proven to be a forgery rather than a valid image of an existing paper document. It is very likely that Fuddy was fully aware of the forgery and was criminally complicit in creating it and hiding the truth about whatever documentation the Hawaiian Department of Health actually has about aka obama's origins. It is quite possible Fuddy was about to crack and testify the full story under oath in order to save her own skin or that aka obama's minions at least feared she would.
One thing is certain - dead Fuddys tell no tales. And aka obama already has too many suspiciously dead bodies in his wake not to at least consider that Fuddy might be the latest to go ker-thump, ker-thump under wheels of his criminal thug-mobile.
The damage to the aircraft was not incurred in the landing to the degree with which we see it after recovery. Take out the conspiracy quotient and you’ve still got a sloppy salvage operation. Might not matter a twit to the insurance company. I’m sure the FAA accident investigators would have preferred an intact aircraft to inspect versus that pile of parts. I did posit (infer) that the damage may have incurred with the sinking and subsequent impact into the ocean floor. Having been a skydiver, I understand terminal velocity above water... but not so much under water.
The meds I take won’t help me here.
"The wings were separate. The fuselage was separate. The engine was separate from rolling on the rocks in the swell," Patrick Ross said.The Cessna Grand Caravan sat aboard the salvage vessel Kahana at Pier 29 Thursday morning. Ross said sections of the plane were scattered across a 100-foot-long debris field. It took his crew about ten hours to float all the pieces to the surface.
The NTSB investigator, Jim Struhsaker, said the wreckage was actually in better shape than he feared.
In any case, the cause of the crash is known to be engine failure. What remains to be determined is what caused the engine to fail. They are shipping the recovered engine back to the manufacturer to make that determination. It is really the only part of the wreckage that matters.
Pinging a few names to this thread in case you haven’t seen it.
Don’t all hearts get irregular when the person dies?
If they were up for that, it would have made a lot more sense to plant a bomb on the airplane, set to go off at altitude over deep water. A big enough bomb to make sure Kawasaki would not get on the radio during descent. That way, the airplane would simply vanish for unknown reasons, and recovery would not be attempted.
Yes, that’s what Keith Yamamoto claims.
I suppose it's neither here nor there, but I would like to say she didn't sink, she was wearing a life-preserver jacket which kept her head out of the water.
I posted a fuzzy screencap of what looks like Fuddy floating pale faced and obviously very un-alive before she was picked up by the rescue team. To the people who want to know why Yamamoto didn’t keep hold of her I would say, would you hang onto a dead woman for an hour in choppy water knowing that it’s impossible to try to revive her while treading water?
If I wanted to silence Fuddy I would have found a much easier and better way. Like feed her a dozen donuts and chase her with a bear. She was obese and unfit.
Since Arpaio and Zullo have said they consider it a sad accident, I’ll go with that until/unless something else is known.
One is left to wonder what pressures were brought to bear on this decision and by whom such pressure might have come.
Was the coroner's name Famy, from Arkansas, FOB? If so, there would be a relevant precedent.
HF
Bad Coroner! NO ARSENIC FOR YOU!
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