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How can we enact meaningful gun control? Part I: Background Checks
The Repartée.com ^ | 2/9/2014 | Adam Winkler

Posted on 02/09/2014 9:50:58 AM PST by rktman

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To: Dutch Boy
The improper use of the firearm is what needs to be regulated.

I agree. I've said many times that commission of a violent crime, B&E, felony theft, etc. while in possession of a firearm out to bring attempted murder charges as the gun is there with the forethought of dealing death.

21 posted on 02/09/2014 10:32:46 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: centurion316
The gist of his argument, therefore is, we can’t stop real criminals from getting guns, so let’s do the next best thing and prevent as many non criminal citizens from doing the same thing. Our safety and security depends on being able to keep firearms out of the hands of the likes of Martha Stewart.

You want to reduce the amount of gun crime (actually all crime)? Order prosecutors to not plea bargain with chronic violent criminals, and do their utmost to put them in jail for as long as possible.

22 posted on 02/09/2014 10:33:34 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: rktman
How can we enact meaningful gun control? s

Eliminate all socialists. Especially the National socialist and more extreme communists. We won't need the guns except for target practice. That's fun...

23 posted on 02/09/2014 10:34:48 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rktman
we could start with on the spot summary executions of every thug/gangbanger caught with a gun...

but that's just me

24 posted on 02/09/2014 10:35:09 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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25 posted on 02/09/2014 10:41:55 AM PST by RedMDer (are sHappy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: rktman

It seems reasonable to investigate everyone who buys a gun and exercises their constitutional rights. It’s for the children. It seems reasonable to register all guns and gun owner so we know who has guns and where they are. It’s for the children. It seems reasonable that people only need 7 clips in a magazine. it’s for the children. It seems reasonable And it seems reasonable that guns should be stored at a gun range or at the local police station. It’s for the children. It seems reasonable to ban all gun ownership. It’s for the children.

What is unreasonable are public libraries. Does anyone really NEED 100,000 books in one place? Does anyone really NEED 50 different newspapers from all over the world? Does anyone really need books written by subversive authors who criticize our light-worker, kind of a god, lord and savior, messiah, president? No one needs all those books.


26 posted on 02/09/2014 10:43:17 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Organic Panic
It seems reasonable to investigate everyone who buys a gun and exercises their constitutional rights. It’s for the children...

Just so.

27 posted on 02/09/2014 10:48:56 AM PST by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: T-Bird45
I consider the words “sensible” and “reasonable” as absolute red flags that indicate I’m about to hear or read the musings of a moron.

I guess what they mean is that their "suggestions" are "sensible" and "reasonable" for leftists who want all firearms band.

And with what we've seen since Barky was a candidate for the demoncrat nomination, if a leftist says ANYTHING, they mean exactly the opposite!

Mark

28 posted on 02/09/2014 10:51:39 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Dutch Boy

It’s nothing but class warfare. Latte-sipping granola-crunching reed-thin pro-gay urban liberal atheists versus gun toting hetero redneck bitter clingers with their Bibles & their BBQ. Proud to be one of the latter, BTW.

No communication possible, only victory counts.

Watch out for their latest tactic: liberals who claim they own guns AND support the right to do so.

Yeah. Diane Feinstein is a liberal gun owner, so is Jay Rockefeller & Barack Obama is a skeet shooter & Wendy Davis supports open carry. Yeah, right. The original “guns for me but not for thee” crowd.


29 posted on 02/09/2014 10:58:10 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: rellimpank

Agreed, I failed to include that most-overused canard, “common sense.” Especially worthy of inclusion due to their musings being so bereft of any “common sense.” There’s been more common sense in the 28 comments before this than in all the published crapola from the various gun control organizations over the years. I especially liked the observation that if someone is too dangerous to own a firearm then they are too dangerous to walk among the rest of us.


30 posted on 02/09/2014 10:59:02 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: rktman

More “reasonable” gun control.


31 posted on 02/09/2014 11:03:20 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: rktman

Marx and Lenin would be SOOOOOOOOOO PROUD.


32 posted on 02/09/2014 11:16:04 AM PST by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, shira is POISON.)
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To: Chode
we could start with on the spot summary executions of every thug/gangbanger caught with a gun...

It will never happen. The last thing that the leftists and ruling class wants is a reduction in crime against the lower and middle classes. First off, it's too dangerous for law enforcement to really go after armed criminals. Secondly, any real reduction in armed crime will result in a call to reduce the militarization of civilian police, and that goes against the grain of statists. Finally, a reduction in armed crime might result in more people deciding they don't want to be completely dependent on the government.

A perfect example is Chicago. If Rahm and his cronies really wanted to stop the genocide of young Black children, he could. Instead, he implores on bended knee that the gang-bangers stay away "the chilrun" as they kill each other. "We've got two gangbangers, one standing next to a kid. Get away from that kid. Take your stuff away to the alley. Don't touch the children of the city of Chicago. Don't get near them" He's making an appeal to the "values" and good will of the gang-bangers. "I don't buy this case where people say they don't have values. They do have values. They have the wrong values." Like Luke Skywalker, who can sense some goodness in Darth Vader Rahm can sense some good in the Gang Bangers.

Mark

33 posted on 02/09/2014 11:19:50 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL
100%! it's just wishful thinking on my part...
34 posted on 02/09/2014 11:41:09 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Paine in the Neck
Paine in the Neck said: "Now, let's talk about what we should do with traitors. "

I prefer the term "counter-revolutionary".

These are people who wish to continue fighting the Revolutionary War which began over 200 years ago.

The Soviets knew what to do with such people. So, too, the Chinese. Perhaps we should consider the damage being done by them and examine our attitudes toward people who would use the power of the federal and state governments to infringe our right to keep and bear arms.

We could start with "re-education" camps. Anti-gunners would thank us for helping them understand the damage they are doing. It is we, who are faithful to the Revolution, who would judge whether anyone being re-educated is worthy to re-enter society. Sounds like fun to me.

35 posted on 02/09/2014 11:59:48 AM PST by William Tell
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To: rktman

And to think, in 1962 Thomas J Dodd and Emanuel Cellar proposed the first federal law on common firearms.

1962; “We don’t want to take away your guns, we ONLY want to register handguns! Rifles and shotguns will not be affected”.

1964: “We only want to register all your guns, not ban them! Only Army surplus guns will be banned.”

1968: “We only want to register your guns, and ban “Saturday Night Specials” and small foreign handguns along with army surplus rifles!” (They got the ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns and small foreign pistols)

1970: “We only want to ban Saturday night specials! Large handguns and rifles will not be affected!”

1976: “We only want to ban all handguns! Long guns will not be affected!”

1981: “The NRA is a rifle organization! They should give up their handguns, and they can keep their rifles!”- Lee Grant on GMA

1984: “We must ban “assault Rifles, unsuitable or hunting!”

1989: George Bush bans import of some foreign made “assault rifles”.

1992: Assault rifle ban passed by Clinton.

2000: first calls to ban single shot .50 cal rifles...

2012 calls for MORE bans on semi auto rifles and handguns.

And so it continues.

They lied to us in 1962.
They lied to us in 1964.
They lied to us in 1968.
They lied to us in 1970.
They lied to us in 1976.
They lied to us in 1981.
They lied to us in 2013,

AND THEY ARE LYING TO US NOW!


36 posted on 02/09/2014 12:09:28 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You make the pertinent point. Everything the left had achieved prior to Hussein had been through incrementalism. Now that they have Hussein in the White House, they think they have a bullet-proof comeback for anyone who protests their sudden leaps in advancing tyranny as opposed to their former incrementalism-just call them a rayciss.


37 posted on 02/09/2014 12:31:45 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Organic Panic
It seems reasonable that people only need 7 clips in a magazine.

????

38 posted on 02/09/2014 12:42:18 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

I put on my liberal reporter hat for a moment.


39 posted on 02/09/2014 1:05:42 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: rktman

If, after 22,000 gun laws on the books, one still has to ask this question, then it’s time to find another cause. And time to wipe those laws off the books, since gun control has been outed as people control.


40 posted on 02/09/2014 1:43:01 PM PST by DPMD
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