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To: El Cid

Sorry, I challenge you to point to me anywhere in the Bible where the number 6,000 or even the number 10,000 is mentioned... Or to keep it relative that Christ was sent to earth 4,000 years after Adam or 8,000 years.

These dates don’t come from any word of God, to claim God claims the earth is X years old is complete fallacy, its disingenuous at any theological level.

The reality is we have documented cultures who were writing and leaving written records long before 6,000 years ago.

“Sorry - that analogy escapes me. Jesus is not buried. He is risen and sits at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. But I get the drift — you reject that the Earth is on the order of 6000 years old.”

Really? it escapes you? You are denying the Bible now? Jesus was indeed buried in a tomb and the tomb was sealed. This analogy is exactly accurate, the young earth theory is just as nonsensical as this overlaying a body over a city and claiming where the heart would be located is the location of Christ’s tomb.

To claim a young earth is somehow the word of God is to be so frankly ignorant of theology that its indeed nonsense theologically. God did not grant man reason to then say, ignore reason and make up your own reality, and the 6000 or 10000 year claim is indeed just making it up. To criticize t is not to criticize the infallibility of God, but to openly mock the folly of man.

The very idea that science and theology are in conflict is idiotic, and a stand only held by people on both sides who are too damned pig headed to remotely accept THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY DON’T KNOW. This debate wasn’t a debate on ID or Evolution, because it never got there because the insane claim of the earth is only a few thousand years stands so at odds with the empirical evidence that a true debate on ID vs Evolution never occurred.

Ham was a piss poor standard barer to take up the argument for ID, and as such there really wasn’t a debate about ID or Evolution but a mockery of the entire reason the debate was claimed to be about.


263 posted on 02/07/2014 10:38:45 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
Sorry, I challenge you to point to me anywhere in the Bible where the number 6,000 or even the number 10,000 is mentioned... These dates don’t come from any word of God, to claim God claims the earth is X years old is complete fallacy, its disingenuous at any theological level.

For some reason, God took the time to give us a time-line starting from Adam to Moses (Adam created in Day 6, Seth born when Adam was 130 years old, Enos born .... etc). It is disingenuous to claim that this time-line is not in the Bible. Bishop Ussher, Isaac Newton, Johan Kepler, Martin Luther, etc all independently came up with the 4000 B.C. marker (plus or minus a few years -- as the co-regencies of various kings of Judah could be interpreted differently).

The reality is we have documented cultures who were writing and leaving written records long before 6,000 years ago.

Your "reality" is based on what? Would you stake your life on the "reality" of this evidence?

Really? it escapes you? You are denying the Bible now? Jesus was indeed buried in a tomb and the tomb was sealed. This analogy is exactly accurate, the young earth theory is just as nonsensical as this overlaying a body over a city and claiming where the heart would be located is the location of Christ’s tomb.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I admit, when I first read your quote: "...where Jesus was believed buried..." I thought you were saying "where Jesus was believed buried" - and not "where Jesus was believed to have been buried before He rose from the dead". But now that you've cleared up that misunderstanding -- I still have no idea what you are talking about regarding "...this overlaying a body over a city and claiming where the heart would be located is the location of Christ's tomb..." Is this something important to you? It doesn't make any sense to me.

...ignorant ... nonsense ... ignore reason and make up your own reality ... indeed just making it up.... The very idea that science and theology are in conflict is idiotic [hey, we found something we can agree on] ... too damned pig headed to remotely accept THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY DON’T KNOW....insane claim of the earth is only a few thousand years stands so at odd .... etc.

Ok, you disagree that the Earth is <10,000 years old.

264 posted on 02/07/2014 11:19:01 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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