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The Navy Is Dropping Down to Just Two Deployed Carriers
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Posted on 01/25/2014 7:09:17 PM PST by ClaytonP

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To: ClaytonP

They need to go back to a heavy cruiser concept Cheaper and just as long range


61 posted on 01/26/2014 4:29:03 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: faithhopecharity
That’s about enough of a navy to maybe defend Canandaigua Lake.

When in good condition, the ships are very effective - might handle the whole Finger Lakes system.

I grew up in Rochester/Henrietta. The foothills to the south of the city are about the only places I miss - beautiful in each of the seasons, but especially Fall and Spring (unless there's a new coating of snow which can make a very nice landscape all its own).

62 posted on 01/26/2014 4:37:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: skeeter
All those dormant flattops will make great section 8 housing for the underprivileged.

They aren't dormant, they're just in U.S. waters instead of the Indian Ocean. And if this plan loosens up more money for maintenance then they'll be in better condition.

63 posted on 01/26/2014 5:24:51 AM PST by Lower Deck
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To: SunkenCiv

We could call it the ‘white flag fleet’...


64 posted on 01/26/2014 6:04:08 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals never let something as petty as being 100% wrong stop them - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: skeeter

Those flat tops will be gone with the first strike from either NORKS or Iran.


65 posted on 01/26/2014 6:42:40 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: kvanbrunt2

However, from a strategic point, could we not maintain a fleet based on min max. Rotate the manpower around each battle group keeping the manpower at a optimal low and the rotated hardware at an optimal high with reserves being trained in the process.


In a wargaming sense your idea might work. But in real-life? Probably not, the service’s are having a hard enough time with retention of trained personnel.

Too many tours away from home will destroy the families of the people serving.

As a side note, I am willing to bet pretty good money that most of our volunteers for the Armed Forces come from families that had people serving in the military too, fathers, uncles and now mothers and aunts.


66 posted on 01/26/2014 6:45:19 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man; JDoutrider

>>I am willing to bet pretty good money that most of our volunteers for the Armed Forces come from families that had people serving in the military too, fathers, uncles and now mothers and aunts.<<

Christians are not joining the Armed Forces these days, perverts are. This move is Obama’s way of saying we don’t have enough young men or women joining to man a full sized force anymore but I’ll never admit that to my enemies.


67 posted on 01/26/2014 8:16:37 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: palmer
The carriers need to be out where they can respond in minutes to an attack on one of our allies.

Which allies? What allies? Japan? Taiwan? NATO? Turkey? Israel? Who are we protecting them from? How much are they compensating us for the billions we spend defending them? Would they go to war for us?

68 posted on 01/26/2014 8:50:06 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: GOPJ

/bingo


69 posted on 01/26/2014 9:48:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: ClaytonP

This looked like some sort of sick joke when I first saw it.

Sad thing is, it is a sick joke, from a totally broken federal government.

Two carrier fleets active at a time.

Where to begin...


70 posted on 01/26/2014 11:02:29 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Pan_Yan

Thank John Kerry. At least we know where your grasp of things ends.


71 posted on 01/26/2014 11:03:21 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: ClaytonP

The handful of destroyers carrying Scan Eagle drones and Fire Scout robot helicopters could also be exempted from carrier-group duty, Gortney added. These vessels frequently sail alone along the East African coast in order to gather intelligence for Special Operations Forces secretly working ashore.

Well, it’s obvious that’s not a secret any more.


72 posted on 01/26/2014 11:09:07 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Secrets? Who needs secrets? It’s just one big friendly world out there where we provide money streams to our best friends who have sworn to bury us. And then here on what is supposed to be a Conservative forum, we have folks buttress the Leftist’s view that an ever shrinking military is actually the best thing.

Next year when they announce we’ll only have one active carrier group on the high seas, folks will come in to swear they never thought we’d come to our senses, but we finally have.

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

In this article is also touches on the fact that our 600 plus have in Reagan’s day is now a 78 ship Navy on the high seas.

We might just as well print business cards that say, “Attack at will...”


73 posted on 01/26/2014 11:18:13 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: ClaytonP

So much for the sea empire and dollar hegemony. Was nice while it lasted.


74 posted on 01/26/2014 11:19:00 AM PST by Stentor (Maybe the Goldman Sachs thing is just a coincidence.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“... 600 plus Navy...”


75 posted on 01/26/2014 11:19:02 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Lower Deck

Seriously! Do you think this is going to loosen up more money for upkeep? And do you honestly think our ships will be out to sea in U. S. waters?

To keep this battle groups in top form, you have to have them on station. These ships will NOT be on station. They will be in port and on short cruises up and down our coasts.

When war comes, and it will, our teams will not be at peak training levels.

This money shill be shifted to social programs, in and out of the military. It is not going to make us more battle ready.


76 posted on 01/26/2014 11:24:52 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: GOPJ

I think it’s going beyond that. It’s an open invitation for our next military engagements to be played at the home team venue, ours.


77 posted on 01/26/2014 11:26:04 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: Yorlik803

The Norks and Iran together couldn’t hit 20% of our battle fleet. It’s debatable if they could hit one of our battle groups. Iran doesn’t even have the bomb yet. North Korea has never tested one on a ballistic missile.

There’s more going on here than meets the eye, and I think it’s Islam’s leading advocate neutering Islam’s potential largest enemy to open the door for more chaos.


78 posted on 01/26/2014 11:29:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: DoughtyOne
I think it's going beyond that. It's an open invitation for our next military engagements to be played at the home team venue, ours.

Not to worry. Before this administration is done, the newly renamed Department of Peace and Tranquility will be stationed on the Potomac to assure the world of good intentions towards one and all.

Come play with us.


79 posted on 01/26/2014 11:42:23 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: DoughtyOne

Try climbing the ladder a little bit. After 70 years of wasting our blood and treasure so other countries could build little socialist paradises under our protection maybe it's time the US went Galt.

80 posted on 01/26/2014 11:42:49 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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