[Partisan Gunslinger]

Sounds like you’re taking a few isolated cases and painting it with a broad brush. As a Canadian with no relatives in that fight, and seeing from outside, it looks to me like the central government types won, and freedom and state’s rights lost.

In 1913, not 1861. That's when freedom was doomed, and with a pro-south president, Wilson.

[Bulwyf]

I agree Wilson was bad news, however the states losing rights started with the civil war. Wilson’s doing led Germany into world war 2. What I don’t get is, U.S. Troops were barely there before the war was won. The Commonwealth had already broken Germany’s back, so why did the president get to set the rules. I think even then higher powers were at work.