Posted on 01/25/2014 6:38:12 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
Kudos for your comments.
Most of those who fought on either side, IMO, were men of honor who deserve to be honored as American patriots, regardless of whether we today agree fully with the cause for which they fought.
There were also, of course, opportunists and scoundrels on both sides, as there have been in every war. But let’s give them too the benefit of the doubt and honor their sacrifice.
I think any reasonable American of today should be able to recognize that neither cause was unmixed evil, nor was it undiluted good. In fact, no war in history has ever been fought on such a basis, and none ever will be.
How about Nathan Forrest, chaining northern captives to burning logs at Fort Pillow? He had a lot of Mandela in him.
FDR never lost a southern state.
In 1913, not 1861. That's when freedom was doomed, and with a pro-south president, Wilson.
Protectionism. Unions.
I don't know what you mean by "downtown Atlanta" but the city (not just the metropolitan area) has been growing over the last 20 years. The White population in particular has been growing in the actual city of Atlanta. Indeed, most American cities have been growing in population lately.
The South is not real interested in putting up Yankee monuments for reconciliation and national unity. Thats the kind of rhetoric you hear spouted from the Left wing Dems every time they want to force something on the rest of us.
There was a lot of rhetoric about reconciliation and national unity when ex-Confederates were trying to force Jim Crow on the rest of us. It's nice to know that the rhetoric was never sincere.
I don't know what you mean by "the South" either. Surely there are a lot of people there who aren't living back in the 19th century and licking their ancestors' wounds. African-Americans, the White descendants of unionists, people whose families moved to the region in more recent times, and younger people who weren't raised Confederate may add up to a significant proportion of the Southern population.
Secession may start at the state level but would advance to the congressional level before completion. But that’s a moot point in the hypothetical event of a tyrant suspending law since the likelihood is that his interventions would occur at all levels, not just federal.
That's because there never was a Civil War battle that took place on Minnesota soil that would have called for memorializing those who died......
Not really if you have a sense of history and a compassion for both sides of the argument.........
The war is over, lives were lost defending both sides and neither one should be denied the honor they deserved........
And yet there is a jefferson davis memorial parkway that runs from Canada to Mexico.
Since Truman was not a Japanese citizen and WW-II was not an internal war in Japan, it's likely your statement is accurate......
I have nothing to do with unions, never have never will.
Both parties are for both open borders and for no significant import tariffs. The are identical in every way - The UniParty.
Jeff Davis Hwy ends in Crystal City Va. and proceeding north it is just U.S. Route 1.
That’s the other jeff davis parkway.
I agree Wilson was bad news, however the states losing rights started with the civil war. Wilson’s doing led Germany into world war 2. What I don’t get is, U.S. Troops were barely there before the war was won. The Commonwealth had already broken Germany’s back, so why did the president get to set the rules. I think even then higher powers were at work.
It depends on what state you are in. Some states have changed more than others. Florida has changed a lot but not North Fla.
Downtown Atlanta is not a great place. There are certain what we call in-town neighborhoods like Midtown and Buckhead that are affluent but their taxes are through the roof to pay for the rest of Atlanta. Lots of crime. White flight out to the outer suburbs and bedroom communities has been going on for years.
I personally believe that a lot of the Civil War sentiment has morphed into a modern antagonism of conservative vs progressive. People are tending to somewhat go back to identifying more with their region than with their country due to the ideological war that is dividing the country. I see this as ongoing and probably getting worse especially with 3 more years of you know who.
The last time some Southern States pretended to secede, Jefferson Davis claimed it was to preserve liberty. Of course, when you read what the "secessionists" wrote at the time, in their own declarations of secession, you will learn that "secession" was really all about slavery and had nothing to do with anyone's liberty.
And, when you get a chance to study the income tax, you will learn that the Confederate States of America adopted an income tax for the people of the South.
Finally, as I've shown you before, the Southern States were at the the front of the line in support of the Sixteenth Amendment (our current income tax). Southern States were the first to ratify the Sixteenth Amendment because they could hardly wait to bring back an income tax.
When the Southern States pretended to "secede," it had nothing to do with liberty. It was all about slavery.
And, most people now accept that slavery was wrong, that it is dead and that it isn't coming back, ever.
Thank to the Illinois Butcher were all slaves now. The republic is dead long live the empire.
None of your three premises are true.
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