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To: Fred Nerks

Sorry - I didn’t make myself clear. In “Dreams” there’s no indication for whom Stanley Ann worked as an au pair that summer in Chicago. Because it turns out she had an uncle living there, I’m now wondering if that’s who she was with; being au pair/babysitter for her mother’s kin.

If it’s not just another lie that she was in Chicago that summer, it’s very perplexing that no mention is made of for whom she was being an au pair. As far as I’ve found, there had not previously [to Dreams] been any mention of any connection to Chicago, and that created a mystery as to how/why Stanley Ann would have been there that summer as an au pair. Who/how/why would a teenage girl living in Mercer Island, WA be hired for a summer job in Chicago? If the story is true, then obviously her parents knew someone there. The mystery is who was it? And why didn’t Barry identify him/her/them in relating that she had been there working as an au pair? Why not disclose the identity - even if by no more than that she was with family friends, or relatives - if that was indeed the case?

The possible/likely date discrepancy [lie?] regarding her year of graduation - considered from the viewpoint of there being no photo/yearbook record made available, combined with the [new to me] knowledge that she had kin in Chicago and is purported to have been in Chicago at age 16, combined with Barry’s statement that she’d seen “Black Orpheus” while in that city conjures up another possible scenario. Barry’s mentioning “Black Orpheus” and her reaction to it is telling us she was attracted to black men prior to the father-of-record student in a Russian language class in Hawaii in 1960. Was the Kenyan student Barack Obama the first black man she slept with? Or had there been a liaison in Chicago when she was 16 - resulting in a son who would later have difficulty remembering in what year he was actually born? Thinking out loud...and appreciating your posts, which always add info to the saga of the liar-in-chief’s life.

Thanks for the links, Fred Nerks - it’ll be an evening of browsing.


118 posted on 01/23/2014 3:21:15 PM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: GGMac
...The possible/likely date discrepancy [lie?] regarding her year of graduation - considered from the viewpoint of there being no photo/yearbook record made available, combined with the [new to me] knowledge that she had kin in Chicago and is purported to have been in Chicago at age 16, combined with Barry’s statement that she’d seen “Black Orpheus” while in that city conjures up another possible scenario. Barry’s mentioning “Black Orpheus” and her reaction to it is telling us she was attracted to black men prior to the father-of-record student in a Russian language class in Hawaii in 1960...

I almost ran out of breath reading that, if you run that fast, I'll never catch up. I think Black Orpheus is a prop, it was used for exactly that purpose, to make it look like this 16 year old girl was in Chicago and had the hots for black men. But Ayres, or whoever wrote that, made a mistake. They didn't take into account that the film wasn't released until December 1959. Make of that what you will.

...Was the Kenyan student Barack Obama the first black man she slept with? Or had there been a liaison in Chicago when she was 16 - resulting in a son who would later have difficulty remembering in what year he was actually born?...

Of course not, didn't you notice she had the hots for black men when she was in Chicago at the age of sixteen and was there long enough to see a romantic film about blacks in December 1959? Bazzinga! They gotcha! How else were they going to get a high school girl who had never dated into bed with a black Luo from Kenya - unless they primed you to believe she was a slut before she graduated?

119 posted on 01/23/2014 4:10:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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