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To: Fred Nerks

Apologies that I can’t tell from what you’ve said whether it has actually been discovered/learned that her uncle Charles Payne is for whom Stanley Ann was an au pair in
Chicago when she was 16. Is it so? That would give a logical common-tie reason for why Toot and
Stanley Ann spent 3 days in Chicago during the 1972 “Barry meets the mainland” tour, although it seems odd they would have spent 3 days in a motel rather than in the uncle’s Hyde Park home. I’ll truly appreciate it if you can steer me to informative links - or books.

The more time passes, and the more that oozes out about his past - the more I’m convinced that Chicago and its history as a repository of Marxist/communist/socialist blacks [and such whites as Ayers] is ground zero of Obama’s history - from before he was conceived.

Among the greatest red flags is his mention in “Dreams” of the old black men in Hawaii who played cards - friends of his grandfather’s - who had fled/escaped Chicago; who were always glad to see him [during his childhood], and who always asked how his mother was - and who he cited as his driving motivation to move to/live in Chicago, because their influence had made him feel Chicago was his destiny. Paraphrased - not exact quotes - but with your knowledge and research, I’m sure you know the portions of the book to which I refer.

Chicago is Obama’s emotional and psychological ground zero.


111 posted on 01/23/2014 9:25:30 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: GGMac

She apparently, from words put into her mouth in ‘Dreams’ says she was an au pair in Chicago when she was ‘only sixteen then’ which would have made it 1958. As no one can find her in a graduation group for the class of 1960 at Mercer Island because not one of her ‘classmates’ has come up with a yearbook, and her best friend Maxine provided Getty Images with a photograph from 1958, it’s a fair bet she wasn’t at Mercer much after that year. ‘Dreams’ tells us about her seeing ‘Black Orpheus’ and that was released in December 1959.
She again (from words put into her mouth in ‘Dreams’) tells zero she was accepted to attend Chicago UNiversity. “But I didn’t know then Dad wouldn’t let me go...” (paraphrased)

All that would be meaningless of course, if it wasn’t that her uncle, the brother of Madelyn, wasn’t Deputy Director of the Library at the University of Chicago where he had been since not long after the end of WW2 until he retired when he was in his late sixties, and was still at the university when zero lectured in law there.

What gave you the impression I suggested she baby-sat his children I have no idea. She very well might have, I think he had one son but I’ve never bothered to look further.

His wife Melanie ended up on a committee with the wife of David Axelrod, and as I’ve already indicated, they ALL lived in Hyde Park, as did the Ayres family.

You’re certainly on the right track about Chicago.

For background material you might find some of the content on this thread of interest:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts


113 posted on 01/23/2014 12:21:38 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: GGMac

After the war, Payne went to college in Kansas on the GI Bill and then to graduate school at the University of Chicago, where Obama would later lecture on constitutional law. He later became interested in computers and how they could be used in libraries. He retired at age 70 as assistant director of the University of Chicago’s

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-07-22-1654309354_x.htm

Development of an Integrated, Computer-Based Bibliographical Data System for a Large University Library. Annual Report to the National Science Foundation from the University of Chicago Library, 1966/67.
Fussler, Herman; Payne, Charles T.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED029649


114 posted on 01/23/2014 12:38:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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