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Different article from different source here

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-guns-20140121,0,1179362.story

1 posted on 01/21/2014 10:46:44 AM PST by lowbridge
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and the poor? ..baseball bats..knives..drugs.

2 posted on 01/21/2014 10:48:38 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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Y'mean suicidal and homocidal people with guns are more than likely to use a gun to commit suicide or homocide ?

How much did THIS study cost ?

3 posted on 01/21/2014 10:49:30 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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I quit reading at University of California, San Francisco


4 posted on 01/21/2014 10:49:50 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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How...convenient!


5 posted on 01/21/2014 10:50:19 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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Hey Man, Nice Shot . . ♫♪
7 posted on 01/21/2014 10:51:32 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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“...twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide...”

Yeah, but before they were like 100x more likely; that’s why they bought the gun


8 posted on 01/21/2014 10:52:10 AM PST by Moose Burger
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From the second article...

"Even those who muster these findings in support of gun limits acknowledge they fail to draw a causal link between gun ownership and victimization.

The 14 studies considered by the UC San Francisco team were observational studies, and they could not make a causal link either."

9 posted on 01/21/2014 10:52:49 AM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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“Pooling results from 15 investigations”

I am a data analyst, 15 investigations is a very small data pool. Sounds like they stopped when they got the results they wanted to see. Thats an old data trick...........................nice try though!


10 posted on 01/21/2014 10:52:59 AM PST by V_TWIN
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Explain the Japanese suicide and homicide rates in a complete gun control environment, lefties.


11 posted on 01/21/2014 10:54:22 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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Gun owners are also a thousand times more likely to commit tyrant-a-cide.


12 posted on 01/21/2014 10:56:00 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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“the first systematic review of its kind—from the University of California, San Francisco, “

stopped right there.


13 posted on 01/21/2014 10:56:01 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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Meanwhile, researchers have found that people with ladders are at an increased risk of falls. In a separate study, it was determined that cuts are more common among households with knives . . .

Elaboration on the obvious . . .


14 posted on 01/21/2014 10:56:01 AM PST by stranger and pilgrim
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Now, a new meta-analysis of gun research—the first systematic review of its kind—from the University of California, San Francisco,...

Do I need to read any further than that?

16 posted on 01/21/2014 10:56:56 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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If this study was done by the left, and who else would do it, you can do away with the suicide part altogether. Why are they even concerned with it when they want to kill old people and babies and backed Cavorkian’s quest. I would think that if anyone wanted to commit suicide the left would GIVE them a gun for free.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 10:57:58 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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Let's try a bigger sample. It is well established that people in New York, who have no access to guns, are much more likely to be victims of homicides committed with guns than say, people in Texas.

On the other hand, people in New York who have thwarted the law and have acquired access to guns probably are more likely to both perpetrate crime as well as be a victim.

19 posted on 01/21/2014 10:59:02 AM PST by the_Watchman
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People are willing to accept risks which they assume and control. A person could go skydiving on Sunday and complain all day long that his employer is exposing him to cleaning solvents on Monday.

So, I am willing to accept the risk that I create for myself by choosing to have a gun. Managing and minimizing that risk is something I enjoy as a responsible adult. But I am not willing to accept the risk that comes from being unarmed and at the mercy of those who might wish to do me harm.

At least this article makes it somewhat clear that the deaths from suicide by one’s own gun dwarf the deaths from homicide by one’s own gun. That comes down to how one feels about the individual’s right to end it all.

(Most Libs would outlaw suicide because it is illegal to destroy government property...)


21 posted on 01/21/2014 11:01:48 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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In related news, men who are married are far more likely to be stabbed by their spouse than those who remain single.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 11:01:48 AM PST by notsofastmyfriend (He is the life of parties he has never attended...)
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These bogus studies make me want to shoot myself! No... Wait.....


23 posted on 01/21/2014 11:02:04 AM PST by Makana (Self-esteem is the new intelligence. - Greenfield)
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This guy cannot even do 3rd grade math:

"without access" means ZERO ACCESS

"without: - out of the limits of; beyond" Webster`s Dict.

stupoid illogical statement:

"Those with the ability to get to a gun are three times as likely to commit suicide and twice as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access"

\access "www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/access‎

access ="a way of getting near, at, or to something or someone. : a way of being able to use or get something." : Webster

if the guy has no way to get a gun, it is physically impossible for him to shoot himself or anyone else.

Since this guy`s reasoning is illogical and mathematically impossible I will correct his stupoid statement:

"Those with the ability to get to a gun are infinitely as likely to commit suicide and infinitesimally as likely to be the victim of a homicide than people without access" because "without access" means a person having no gun in his hand cannot pull the trigger, you idiot.

ZERO CHANCE = if"NO ACCESS" = ZERO ACCESS =WITHOUT ACCESS

This guy is a liar and moron at the same time- incredible!

more bs commie progaganda. Liars do figure.

24 posted on 01/21/2014 11:04:34 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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Blacks Suffer Disproportionate Share of Firearm Homicide Deaths

http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/blacks-suffer-disproportionate-share-of-firearm-homicide-deaths/


26 posted on 01/21/2014 11:06:13 AM PST by Beowulf9
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