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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 January 2014
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 19 January 2014 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/19/2014 4:47:42 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.
1 posted on 01/19/2014 4:47:43 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.
2 posted on 01/19/2014 4:48:27 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

3 posted on 01/19/2014 4:48:49 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

Face the Nation

Fox News Sunday

ABC This Week

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)

4 posted on 01/19/2014 4:49:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All; bray

“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials excercise authority over them. Mat. 20:25

Conservatives continue to lose battle after battle at the ballot box because they are using a broken formula. They are under the impression if they will get their conservative base to vote for them while chasing the Democrats they will turn up enough votes in the box to win. You will never convince a Dem to vote for a Repub just as you are never going to get an Auburn fan to pull for Bama. Our managers use the formula of getting 80% of the Republicans, 50% of the independents and 15% percent of the Dems they will win elections. The formula works so well on paper and has served the Dems for decades; problem is it has no connection with reality for Repubs.

The Marxists have made this formula work for decades because they have the money and manpower to force the turnout. Their system works in large part due to having the manpower from the unions to actually knock enough doors to get out those voters. They can actually walk and knock the neighborhoods with massive numbers of paid and unpaid canvassers to knock every door in the targeted districts. They have unlimited funds and shoe leather. The Repubs have nowhere near the numbers to do the walking since most are working and raising their families or hate the idea of knocking doors. Like we say when we door knock, never knock a Republican door before 6 PM or a Dem door before noon.

This puts Repubs at a distinct disadvantage as they will never knock as many doors as the Dems so they are relegated to phone banks. Even with phone banks the Repubs are drastically outnumbered as the unions are well oiled machines at phone banking. They set up their phone banks in the union offices and require their members to man them for certain numbers per week. This is actually not the advantage it used to be as the invention of caller ID has made this method of voter motivation to almost no affect whatsoever. The managers believe it works, but that is because it is a countable action which they can to point to as an activity even though there is no proof of voter movement.

The other area the Dems excel is commercials. Once again with channel changing and VCR recording there are very few commercials which are watched. Most voters who turn out in numbers are not going to be influenced by a sappy spot having some candidate lying through his teeth. The last election there was absolutely no proof in the polls that definitively showed any movement from the Romney commercials. In the end there was little chance of him winning by using the same old Dem formula being run by the same old…Repub managers.

The primary reason these three tactics work for the Dems and not for the Repubs is it has been developed to augment the advantages the Marxist machine naturally enjoys. As long as we keep playing by their rules on their home turf we are going to continue to fail. The most important gear to make their machine work is the Three Pillars of Propaganda (media, academia and the DNC). When they knock a door they simply reinforce the message that has already been established by the Three Pillars. They only have to go to the door and continue the narrative that Repubs are evil friends of big business and only the saintly Dems have your interests at heart. It makes knocking doors easier since you will be mostly talking to the brainwashed and rarely will run into a rabid dog that Repubs are confronted by. Also, for a cult member it is doing good to make you a good person.

When they run their commercials they only have to add to the 24/7 message the media is giving to the masses during their programming. There is nothing to their message other than Repubs are angry white men who hate women and minorities. They have already had the Three Pillars establish the stereotype and they simply add TV and radio ads to that message and enjoy the benefits of the 24/7. Repubs can only run commercials which basically say, “No we aren’t” as they attempt to combat the already established message.

The phone banks are more of the same although since they have little effect thanks to caller ID, but they do have an advantage there. They will rarely run into that call to the insane cult worshiping Dem who is going to see how many names he can call you in 30 seconds without breathing. The Repub has to wait for that low IQ voter’s rant to end while he tries to get his, “no we are not” message to his prospects.”

The bad news is our candidates are playing poker with a marked deck and refuse to leave the table. The good news is some groups like ours have left the table and thrown the cards in the Dems faces and are winning some surprising victories. What we have changed is working smarter rather than harder. We have extremely limited resources and manpower so we are using it where the socialists are not. They are primarily using TV and door knocking while we have found to use old fashioned signs in strategic placements and targeted door knocking.

Targeted door knocking when used in conjunction with our other targeted methods is the most effective way for Repubs to campaign and very cost effective. It is the only way around the Three Pillars’ monopoly and avoids the constant attacks on conservatism. When you are on someone’s porch you are really inside their house or on an extension of that house so you are actually in their lives and away from the brainwashing tools to speak one on one. This is where you can begin to reinforce the message for fellow isolated Repubs and begin to relate to Independents. You completely ignore Dems since the 15% formula is a myth and you will only get maybe 1-5% who is going to convert. You are far more likely to accomplish a vote through talking a Repub to voting against the Marxist establishment or talking to an Independent. It is smarter to talk to someone you have a 50%+ chance of getting a vote than wasting your time with a 1% or less.

The real weapon the Dems cannot touch is targeted voter acquisition. They do have an advantage with voter fraud, but they have basically tapped out their resources in that. They only have so many inner city districts they can get 110% turnout while ours have been neglected. Rather than making calls we need to spend the month prior to the vote making sure our voters begin to understand the importance of their vote. We need to identify the people who are the most likely to vote your way and knock those doors. You then need to assign block captains to make sure their likely neighbors vote and go get those voters. We have found this to be a surprising method of getting out the vote we have surprised ourselves by pulling anywhere from 3-5% and more and pulling 90% plus Repub turnout. This is something they cannot recreate since there is really nothing the Dems can talk about other than how evil Repubs are.

As you fine tune this system and make it work for your states and districts it will become more and more effective to change the dynamic. The Marxists have built this system for the past hundred years and stacked it completely in their favor. All of the experts and managers believe they only have to plug in the formula and it will spit out wins when the game is completely stacked against them. The only way to win at this game is to play by a different set of rules and go directly to the people. The campaign gurus need to stop ignoring their base and begin to embrace them. They need to begin ignoring the Dems and start embracing the most rabid activists who will do the door knocking for them. The ignoring the base may be popular among the managers and get props from the Three Pillars, but it is costing them election after election as they make a scarce resource even more unlikely to help.

When the party bosses finally have been beaten enough they will begin to think about taking a risk or trying something different. Rather than running out and doing the same old quantitative activities by knocking doors which are a waste of time to get a golden handshake and begin to work smart and efficient. They can save their money on commercials and mailers while spending that money on targeting software and signs as well as billboards to get around the Mainstream Marxist Media. The most amazing part of this method is you can elect real conservatives since it is all about getting out the vote and minimizing the fear of a conservative message. These are all unheard of in the inner circles of the Party intelligentsia, but at this point what have they got to lose except more losses?

I have written a complete manual which goes into this in detail for anyone who wants it.

Download it here:

Pray America is waking

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.

5 posted on 01/19/2014 4:50:00 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

It looks like Obamacare, the abject failure of socialized medicine in the United States, is now “old news”.

6 posted on 01/19/2014 4:51:50 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Thank you, for the ping! :-D

7 posted on 01/19/2014 4:56:00 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Where is the craven socialist freak, McCain?

8 posted on 01/19/2014 5:00:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
"old news"
it's buried...wait till the $hit hit$ the fan..
moneywise, the check comes due

9 posted on 01/19/2014 5:01:15 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Lazamataz
Where is the craven socialist freak, McCain?

On-line trying to sign up for Obamacare, muttering under his breath about those "Wacko Birds" who make him look bad

10 posted on 01/19/2014 5:06:03 AM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: Lazamataz
"where's McPain"
who's cares?, along as he's not on the boob-tube. ;-)
or he's w/Reggie, 0'Dungo & Linda.

11 posted on 01/19/2014 5:09:07 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Will Putin be asked if gays are welcome at the Olympics?

12 posted on 01/19/2014 5:17:54 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: Alas Babylon!

David Kennedy, TrustedSec CEO, will be on Fox News Sunday Per Chris Wallace to discuss how the Obamanocare website is not secure at all. In fact, it is worse since they brought in people to repair it.

13 posted on 01/19/2014 5:21:28 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: ken5050

Does he crap in the Kremlin?

14 posted on 01/19/2014 5:25:25 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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I have no faith in any talk that occurs when people should be in church.

Who cares who's on the Sunday talk shows except democrat non religious whom by and large (imo) are part of the de4struction of America.

THOSE are the ones that mindlessly argue against any conservative that may attempt a converstation with them with the hope of engaging relavent thoughts and ideas to get a democrat to see his error.

I have friends, otherwise conservative-ish except they are convinced conservatives (republicans) are big money, big pharma, big government, big _________ and will not allow a logicasl thought of argument to be entered into.

15 posted on 01/19/2014 5:30:35 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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Logic does not have any connection to Democrats’ belief systems. It is a religion with them, and they take all mediacrat pronouncements on faith. That cannot be argued with by using reason.

16 posted on 01/19/2014 5:37:10 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at
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To: Alas Babylon!

Morning AB, All

Thank you AB for doing this thread.

I taped the Obama speech for anyone who missed it.

also, below the link to the Sister Pat’s not the best video for the blur but you might enjoy.

17 posted on 01/19/2014 5:43:04 AM PST by Fishtalk (
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To: Alas Babylon!
It's Sunday, we're not on, and we don't know what to do with ourselves.
18 posted on 01/19/2014 5:43:05 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; Brad from Tennessee

Good Playoff morning, AB and all!

Rogers sure is making the rounds today! As chair of the House Intel Committee, I suspect he’ll be addressing NSA and the “changes” Obummer announced in his lengthy, teleprompter babbling on Friday.

I also noticed an article on FR earlier today:

Rogers: Russia may be behind Snowden leak
Politico ^ | January 18, 2014 | By Adam Sneed

Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:19:19 AM by Brad from Tennessee

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee says Edward Snowden likely received help stealing information from the National Security Agency — and that help may have come from Russian intelligence officials.

In a pre-recorded interview for NBC’s “Meet the Press” with David Gregory, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) questioned how the former NSA contractor arranged travel out of the United States before leaking the trove of secret documents and eventually making his way to Russia.

“Let me just say this. I believe there’s a reason he ended up in the hands, the loving arms, of an FSB agent in Moscow,” Rogers said. “I don’t think that’s a coincidence.”

Rogers said several factors of the saga raise questions, that some of the things Snowden did in attaining the information “were beyond his technical capabilities,” according to an early transcript from the show.

In August, Russia granted Snowden one year’s asylum after he spent five weeks in legal limbo in Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport, a decision that has been an ongoing source of tension with the United States. The Obama administration has called for Snowden’s extradition so he can stand trial. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

19 posted on 01/19/2014 5:48:20 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops)
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To: knarf

Hello Knarf.

First, I went to the 4:30 mass yesterday. You remarked that people should be in church on Sunday mornings....that’s not always true so your statement misses the mark.

Second, this is a Sunday talk show thread. It says that plainly on the title on the front page. Obviously, silly us, WE care about who’s on the shows and we talk about it.

Yet you bothered to come on here and grouse? Tell you what, join in on our conversation and enjoy yourself. Being a curmudgeon isn’t flattering on you.

20 posted on 01/19/2014 5:48:25 AM PST by Fishtalk (
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