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To: daniel1212; stanne; kevkrom; Talisker; 2nd amendment mama; MamaB; dartuser; wesagain; crosshairs; ..

I think this is a very difficult topic and one that calls for extreme spiritual discernment. On the one hand the natural man does not have the spiritual discernment to understand the destructiveness of homosexuality. So until they come to the knowledge of truth, they rest in their sins just like everyone else. On the other hand, homosexuality is the result of God abandoning them to their lustful passions because they knew God but purposely did not wish to honor Him.

I think our best example for this dilemma rest with Abraham and Lot. When asked by the kings of Sodom, Abraham was instrumental in helping the people of Sodom when they were raided. It was also to Abraham’s benefit to rescue Lot. Their relationship was one of respect but Abraham refused to entangled himself with them. Lot, OTOH, went and lived with with the people of Sodom. He sought to appease them to the point of sacrificing his daughters to them. In the end it says that Lot vex his soul and resulted in ruin.

Does baking a cake for a homosexual wedding show assistance or entanglement? Does going to a homosexual hairdresser for 10 years show mutual goals or entanglement? This is difficult to say and can only be addressed by each individual.


130 posted on 01/10/2014 10:00:15 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: HarleyD

Wrongo. It’s addressed by the religious authorities in their proper and ordered and scholarly approach to the bible, tradition and church authority

It is also addressed by the courts.

Both have determined that it is not an infringement to sell such an item to individuals under this circumstance

To reinterpret is to judge by oneself to act as God the judge. And that’s it. To advise us or anyone to ignore authorities and judge, however tempered one’s tone, is encouraging bigotry and hatred.

If I were to withhold a professional relationship or services with everyone I deem steeped in an unrepentant lifestyle, Id be very busy interfering and causing a lot of unrest and anger and fear & loathing and going out of business

To purchase from an individual who probably engages unrepentantly in a sinful lifestyle is simply not a sin in the Catholic Church

I have many lists long lists of contemporary occasions of sin all based on the Ten Commandments and I can assure you that not casting judgement on people, shunning them and casting doubt and aspersions on them is not listed as sinful.

If I were to do so, what would stop me from doing the same to a practicing Catholic who openly or not openly advised the use of birth control, which is a sin, or who partakes on gossip, which falls under the fifth commandment, which, if you don’t know, is murder.

Who is to determine that an unrepentant catholic married outside of the church to someone who is married to someone else who it an anulment, or who drinks heavily is not as bad a sinner as a practicing homosexual?

Most kids in their twenties live with and are not married to their sex partners. How is that a lesser sin. Should I not pay my dentist if she’s not married to her live in boyfriend?

Should I not speak with my cousin, living in sin?

No? Shun only the homosexual?

You are promoting bigotry. Find the regulation in the Catholic Church that says give nothing to unrepentant sinners. Cite it then we can talk otherwise its like talking to the muppets


131 posted on 01/10/2014 11:01:15 AM PST by stanne
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