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To: T Ruth
Chief Scout Executive Wayne Brock may have announced it to the Top Hands Meeting just "last week", but this is old news. My two units (Boy Scouts and Venturing) rechartered the first week of December at the new $24 rate.

Yes, it shows the financial fallout of the gay issue. First, you have who oppose the new policy dropping out of or no longer financially supporting the BSA. Second, you have corporate sponsors who no longer sponsor the BSA because it hasn't gone all the way to accepting openly gay Scout leaders.

This isn't going to be a quick death. Chartered organizations have the final say on who they accept as leaders, and unless state or other law requires them to accept gay leaders, many chartered organizations aren't going to accept openly gay leaders even if the BSA accepts them.

How does it affect my units? We can control access to our Scouts when we camp alone, but District or Council overnight events are now out of our control - and out of our scheduled program.

13 posted on 01/04/2014 12:57:20 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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Same for our troop. Our youngest is working on his Eagle, after he finishes, we’re done. We’ve only left him in because we know the leadership, are actively involved, and know when they walk, it’s beyond help. Our boys will no longer be doing council events and summer camp is going to revert to our troop only as was one in times past when money was tight. We are blessed that we have a lot of very godly men in leadership and a large troop.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 1:13:29 PM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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So far there’s nothing about allowing “gay” Scoutmasters.

In a sense, I see a possible opportunity here, however. It’s just such a strongly masculine environment as the Scouts at least had been, that would probably help a limp-wrister Scout learn some manhood. If he was really willing to learn and not be stubborn and force his weakness on everyone else to accommodate. This might end up helping some “gays” in a manner they didn’t anticipate.


23 posted on 01/04/2014 1:17:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Scoutmaster
143 This isn't going to be a quick death. ...

I agree. The BSA pros estimated back in APR2013 that their worst case scenario would see a loss of 13% of the 2013 membership level.

...How does it affect my units? We can control access to our Scouts when we camp alone, but District or Council overnight events are now out of our control - and out of our scheduled program.

So that means no district/council camporees, no distirct merit badge days, what about your district EBoR?, no council summer camp, no national jamboree, no world jamboree, and worst for you, no Philmont/Northern Tier/FL Sea Base/Summit. I include the High Adventure bases because even though you will oversee your crews on the trail, they will come into contact with other crews, base-camp staff and out-back staff. When I trekked Philmont in 1990, I had a conversation with a college-aged staffer who told me about 2 staffers who were dismissed after being caught in the act. First time I heard the term "packing fudge."

37 posted on 01/04/2014 1:34:48 PM PST by MacNaughton
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