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To: Fred Nerks

I wonder if Subud practices (I assume it has some kind of practices) involved chanting and incense. Remembering Kam Kuwata’s experience of seeing Zero stumbling and pale at the Dem convention, going into a room with a couple of people. Door closed, Kuwata hears “weird chanting” and smells something like incense (unless it was that drug homos take) and 20 minutes later Zero pops out looking high as a kite.


96 posted on 01/03/2014 9:30:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Interfaithing
by reynold ruslan feldman, ph.d

excerpt:

In May 1961, a year after receiving my B.A. in English, I was opened in Subud. That took place in Chicago. At the time I was also attending the Ramakrishna-Vivekananda Hindu Fellowship near where I lived. Back at Yale Graduate School that fall and an isolated member, I began studying Indonesian and hanging around with “people who looked like Bapak.” It wasn’t until the fall of 1969 in Honolulu, with Mas Prio Hartono a recent houseguest, that I first tried the Muslim Ramadan Fast. It was challenging, to say the least, with world-class headaches appearing every day by three. But with Muslim students and professors at the East-West Center, where I was working, for companions, it was a dramatic experiment for me—one that I have since repeated 36 times.

My road to active interest in interreligious matters was less direct. As an assistant professor of English at the University of Hawai`i at Manoa and, for a year, as intercultural activities officer at the adjoining East-West Center, I was tapped by the Lutheran campus pastor to serve on the University’s interfaith council as a faculty member representing “Team Lutheran.” Then, as assistant director of the University’s experimental School of the Humanities, “New College,” I co-taught an interfaith freshman seminar called “Gods and Men.” By this time I had already been reading widely in the world’s great religions and could spout technical terminology and explain some of the main concepts of Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism as well as Judaism and Christianity. I also liked listening to Hindu and Christian classical music.

http://www.subud-sica.org/index.php?hkat=7&ukat=24


103 posted on 01/03/2014 9:49:04 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah; Brown Deer
SUBUD AND SUFISM

Subud is a spiritual association founded by Muhammad Subuh, a Javanese Muslim born in 1901 (d. 1987). Surprisingly for a movement originating in a country without an international reputation for spirituality, in 1957 Subud suddenly attracted attention and spread all over the world, drawing in previous followers of other spiritual paths, including members of all the main religious faiths, as well as seekers of no previous persuasion...

source

Pak Subuh, founder.

104 posted on 01/03/2014 10:08:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah
lj, you are referring to alkyl nitrates--AKA "poppers" and not limited to the homos but also used in club scenes.

Among the medical risks source:Alkyl nitrites are interactive with other vasodilators like sildenafil (Viagra), vardenafil (Levitra), and tadalafil (Cialis), to cause a serious decrease in blood pressure, leading to fainting, stroke, or heart attack.[12]

These drugs cause a sudden and severe decrease in blood pressure. source

Next questions: (these drugs are not likely to show up in an autopsy)

Did Fuddy have a history of heart problems or irregularities?

Was fuddy on a vasodilator medication for blood pressure issues?

Was Fuddy's "heart problem", if one existed, exacerbated through the administration of "poppers" while in the water?

296 posted on 01/26/2014 3:21:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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