[yldstrk]

I think women wouldn’t have an issue with that if they believed their husbands had their best interests at heart. Women want someone to rely on and who will protect them and not be an ass.

But the husbands that bandy this about are usually abusers

[papertyger]

I think women wouldn’t have an issue with that if they believed their husbands had their best interests at heart.

That's easy to claim when she's the one defining what her "best interests" are....

The Bible tells us the curse God laid on women at The Fall was a desire to control her husband with a corresponding inability to make it "work."

What we have today is what the results of that curse look like.

[papertyger]

But the husbands that bandy this about are usually abusers

And women who make duplicitous accusations to buttress their assertions are usually...women.