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To: OneWingedShark

So you’re advocating the murder of...someone...because the state enacts a registration scheme? I hope I misunderstand. I can’t condone such a thing; in fact, I condemn it. Silently refusing to register is fine in my book as an act of civil disobedience, but not acts of violence against...well, who exactly? Do not allow yourself to be provoked into rash acts. Your enemies are aching for some fool to pull something before the elections; they would see it as a gift from above to draw attention from the fact that they are running America into the ground. In fact, if nobody is fool enough to oblige them, I fully expect at least one manufactured incident before November. Probably more. Again, I hope that I have misinterpreted your post.


225 posted on 12/29/2013 9:08:19 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: Trod Upon
So you’re advocating the murder of...someone...because the state enacts a registration scheme?

If an agent of the state, acting outside the law, breaks into your home and kills you is it murder?
This is not entirely rhetorical: it happens so commonly there's a term for it — no knock raid.

This is without registration, with registration they basically have a list of names that they can kill or otherwise dispose of at will.

We've already seen the response of the government to Treason and, incidentally, State Sponsored Terrorism with Fast & Furious: nothing.
We've also seen that they will commit treason under the color of law, and that the courts will make logically incomprehensible decisions to continue allowing it. (The War on Drugs is a war on the Several States, therefore treason; it was held by the USSC in Gonzalez v. Raich that the non-commerce of drugs, falls under the drug-laws which are derived from the interstate commerce-clause as expanded to intrastate via Wickard v Filburn.)

So, having this list of gun-owners means one thing: a list of probable perpetrators, dangers to the state, provided to a group of people who can murder you with no consequence. It cannot end well.

but not acts of violence against...well, who exactly?

Any agent who says you must do this as opposed to those who flat-out say this is illegal and I cannot/will-not allow it.

Do not allow yourself to be provoked into rash acts. Your enemies are aching for some fool to pull something before the elections; they would see it as a gift from above to draw attention from the fact that they are running America into the ground. In fact, if nobody is fool enough to oblige them, I fully expect at least one manufactured incident before November. Probably more. Again, I hope that I have misinterpreted your post.

Then what? Bend over and take it?
Is Justice worth so little to you that nothing would impel you to take up arms against abuse?
Is "peace" worth so much to you that you would condone the forced enslavement of your countrymen to petty and whimsical 'law'?
Is "submission" so great a virtue that any with power must be obeyed?

If they're going to manufacture an event anyway, then you believe that they will lie to achieve the very thing here, no?

Perhaps I should have phrased it better as if you wait for them to show up at your door, you've already lost or don't let the enemy decide where to fight, but it's something that needs thought about. — Where is that line?
(I actually believe it's already been crossed, the extent of the corruption in government [IRS/NSA/DEA/BATFE/etc] is astounding — and we don't know the half of it… and nobody in government is rushing/vigious to address any of it.)

226 posted on 12/29/2013 10:02:16 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Trod Upon
So you’re advocating the murder of...someone...because the state enacts a registration scheme?

One does not "murder" enemy combatants.

Your enemies are aching for some fool to pull something...

They also know many on our side will always be aching for a justification to remain passive. It corrodes morale, and weakens resistance.

235 posted on 12/29/2013 11:49:33 PM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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