Posted on 12/25/2013 7:15:18 AM PST by Olog-hai
In January, when key provisions of the Affordable Care Act go into effect, South Carolina’s Republican-led state Senate is scheduled to vote on fast-tracked legislation that would prohibit all state agencies, public officials and state employees from implementing the federal health care law.
Republican Gov. Nikki Haley, who has been a vocal opponent of Obamacare, is expected to sign the South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act (H 3101), which could become a model for other states. […]
The bill would forbid state employees from participating in federally mandated insurance exchanges, and reimburse individuals in the form of a state tax deduction for any federal tax penalties they incur for not buying health insurance. …
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Ted Cruz was the first to stand up against ObamaCare. Nikki Haley is the second. I hope she is strong enough to withstand the hurricane-force blow back that is about to come her way.
SS was never a pension plan. And your contributions do not belong to you. They belong to the USG, which can decide what benefits will be provided.
SS is a Ponzi scheme. SS is a pay as you go system, i.e., today's workers pay for today's retirees. In 1950 there were 16 workers for every retiree; today there are three; and by 2030 there will be two. We either decrease benefits or raise contributions or some combination thereof to ensure full benefits are paid. SS has been running in the red since 2010. The last time that happened was in the early 1980s, which prompted Reagan and Tip O'Neil to strike a Faustian bargain to save the system for the next 75 years. One change was to raise the age for full benefits from 65 to 67. Another was to force all new federal hires to pay into SS.
Federal abuses and malfeasance to the SS funds over the past decades have perverted a reasonable annuity plan. If SS had been privatized it would have been successful.
What federal abuses are you referring to?
South Carolinians will promptly tell the Feds “you made this law, you enforce it!
Here we go....
I'd like to see an argument made that the law is unimplementable and unenforcable as demonstrated by all the unconstitutional waivers and changes that Obama has personally made without authority.
I'd like to see them argue that no such law can be found to be constitutional because its very nature of poor construction creates a constitutional crisis every time the President makes law on his own in an attempt to fix this law.
The Supreme Court should strike it down simply because it is no law at all.
-PJ
The IRS can pull fines directly out of people’s accounts. The state cannot stop that.
Past being prologue, Nikki will stand firm. IMHO
The only person who made that claim is Alex Jones.
FWICS, the IRS can put a lien on your bank account, though.
Under our current dictatorship this will go nowhere. King Obama will just put Haley in his place. Obey or go down.
It's designed to make the Feds go through hoops and implement this on their own, without SC's help.
The Feds passed this and crammed it down our throats; they can implement it then. That's their problem and states shouldn't lend a pinkie to help them.
Yes, that is exactly where this is going. Nationwide. Open Defiance of the Fed Gov at the State Level. The battle lines are drawn. The ComDems must go.
Regards,
It’s not about state employees having or not having Obamacare insurance. It’s about the Printz precedent. If you read the bill, its passive aggression. The Printz case proved the fed cannot force a state to implement a federal law using state infrastructure. So SC is basically saying, fine Obama, you have a federal law, use your own flimsy little federal resources to enforce it, if you can. There’s more to it than that, but that’s the centerpiece. Basically, a state supported boycott. If every state followed suit, the new system never gets a long-term foothold, and enough of the old system survives to give hope of weathering the storm. They’ve written this within the confines of established states rights. I think it could work.
I agree. If the Feds file suit against the state the State of SC can say the changes to the law by Obama admin makes the bill unconstitutional as only Congress can change written laws. This will be a wonderful can of worms to be opened up.
SS could have worked if done correctly you’d get 100% investment on your money i.e. you pay in 6.2% of your salary, your employer matches the 6.2%.
When you retire they should just hand you a check (tax free) for the combined total, say here you go and that’s “ALL” you get.
The Government just F’s up everything it touches.
This is political symbolism from the Republican Party.
They are putting on a show for you to pretend they are standing up to Obamacare.
A real Obamacare ban in the state for the people of South Carolina would trigger a court fight that the state would lose.
But remember that the official position of the Republican Party establishment politicians is not the abolition of Obamcare but its modification.
They want a cross state marketplace for people to buy mandatory health insurance coverage.
The GOPe does not want to get rid of Obamacare, they want to turn it into Romneycare. Both drive up health insurance costs for people, its just that Romneycare does it a little less than Obamacare.
***SS was never a pension plan.***
I used quotes for ‘pension’ - but that was the public’s perception.
***What federal abuses are you referring to?***
Reviewing articles like this:
http://www.fedsmith.com/2013/05/23/government-owes-2-7-trillion-to-social-security/
“The government has embezzled all surplus Social Security revenue, generated by the 1983 payroll tax hike, and spent the money on wars and other government programs. None of the money was saved or invested in anything.”
Gov. Haley is a she, and a very determined she.
Or if SS had remained what it started out to be, which was to take care of the people who really needed. The impoverished, widows and orphans and the disabled. It became, in effect, a pension fund for everyone.
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