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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I may be the only one who doesn't know who this guy is..

I don't have time to watch TV..

Free speech is what it says it is but it doesn't guarantee anybody a job.

There is no conflict with the constitution because the Feds are not involved.

But getting back to my original point..who are you people that have the time or inclination to be informed on this...

My world doesn't give me the time luxury.

23 posted on 12/21/2013 11:29:34 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

It Appears your World does not give you the Time to Understand the Constitution as Well. There does not NEED to be a Conflict with the Federal Government for a Company to be held Liable for Wrongful Termination of Employment over a Freedom of Speech Issue.


27 posted on 12/22/2013 12:21:42 AM PST by docman57 (Retired but still on Duty)
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To: montanajoe

You’re wrong an an important point and that is there are federal laws that protect people based on their religious beliefs in the workplace.

I don’t watch TV and don’t have TV programming in my home. I have the internet and this duck dynasty thing is all over YouTube if it is searched for. Doesn’t take but a few minutes that this is some hoaky reality show about some backwood types who also happen to be millionaires because they produce a lot of products for duck hunters.

But the cause of action they have is as follows:

1. They have a contract with A&E and this contract creates a ‘workplace’ environment.

2. One of the parties to the workplace expresses his religious views outside the workplace to a magazine called GQ.

3. The management of the workplace which is A&E fires or suspends the party for expressing his religious views, even though such expression could cause no disruption to the workplace because the expression occurred outside the workplace.

Remark: Homosexuals cannot plead it was disruptive to them in the workplace because it happened outside the workplace. Reading or hearing about the expression in GQ is not a disruption inside the workplace.

Federal anti-discrimination laws prohibit taking action against persons in the workplace based on a number of things among which is a person’s religion.

When A&E heard about the GQ interview, they retaliated. They overstepped their bounds not because it is illegal to fire someone for expressing views or making statements to the press, it is legal in general to do that. What is illegal is to retaliate against a person based on their religious views unless it is disruptive to the workplace.

I am not allowed to terminate contractors because I find out that outside the workplace they are non-Catholic, or if they are Episcopalians giving ‘rainbow weddings’ to same-sex partners.

Similarly A&E is not permitted by law to do what they did.

It was legal for MSNBC to fire Alex Baldwin for his slur against homosexuals because it was not based on religious conviction and was filled with hostile profanity “C-— Sucking Faggot!”.

Martin Bashir was fired because his commentary was not based on anything protected by federal law.

Federal law permits all of us to express our religious views as long as we don’t fall afoul of other laws such as disrupting a gathering, creating a public nuisance, etc,


54 posted on 12/22/2013 8:00:06 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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