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To: Boonie
The FACTS consciously overlooked by the GRANT MONEY WHORES (aka "global warming experts" are these:

1. Most ALL of the so-called "greenhouse gas" is WATER VAPOR!  Unless someone has found a way to stop evaporation from the oceans, lakes, rivers and streams, the TRANSPIRATION from trees and other plants, that situation will be with us...all together now...FOREVER.

2. By photosynthesis, plants take in CO2 and give back the O2 humans and animals REQUIRE for life.  Reduce CO2 and plants perish.  Increased CO2 = more plant life, ergo MORE O2!  It's a rather stable balance.

3. One MAJOR volcanic eruption spews more vapor and other "greenhouse gases" into the atmosphere than MAN HAS PRODUCED SINCE MAN HAS BEEN ON THE PLANET!  I have yet to hear a serious legislative proposal BANNING VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS!!!

(I suggest these frantic "greenies" gather at the upper rim of the next major volcanic  outbreak to study the "problem" up close and personal.  Now THAT would solve many of our problems!)

There's a lot more but I think you get the idea!

With the alleged "collapse" of the Soviet Union and communism (they just changed their uniforms for business suits, wear their pistols concealed, studied English and came here), the political One World elites needed another boogieman with which to herd the great unwashed (that's us) into their New World Order corral.  Of the several options explored, GLOBAL WARMING won.  Now that IT may be failing, watch for the latest boogieman to be formally introduced.

If you want to understand how that works, reread "1984" by Orwell.  It's all laid out there.

No, the major element controlling our climates is the SUN.  "Global warming", "climate change" or whateverthehell new name these idiots and grant money whores come up with is how THEY seek to CONTROL ALL OF US!!


13 posted on 12/19/2013 10:28:49 AM PST by Dick Bachert (CONGRESS: GROW A PAIR! IMPEACH THE USURPER!!)
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To: Dick Bachert
One MAJOR volcanic eruption spews more vapor and other "greenhouse gases" into the atmosphere than MAN HAS PRODUCED SINCE MAN HAS BEEN ON THE PLANET!

Not even close. Pinatubo released 42 Mt of CO2 and mankind releases 7100 Mt every year.

However solar activity is slow right now and because of leftover ocean warming (especially in the Arctic) there is a lag in cooling. If the coming cooling (strong likelihood) could be solved by one volcano worth of GHG that would be great, but unfortunately not even close to correct. For one thing, CO2 is a weak GHG. If you count the water vapor from volcanoes that would also be incorrect in two ways: water vapor is transient, and human-produced water vapor also greatly exceeds volcanic water vapor.

22 posted on 12/22/2013 6:41:46 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Dick Bachert
One more note about vapor. You are correct that water vapor is the most important GHG and there is a lot of it: about 500,000,000,000,000 Mt from evaporation and transpiration. In contrast, Pinatubo released 500 Mt. Mankind is probably in the 10's of thousands of Mt per year. None of our water vapor matters, it is too trivial. Likewise volcanic water vapor.

All that matters is weather, i.e. the distribution of water vapor. Not even the amount matters, but how even or uneven the water vapor is. For example if there is more "extreme weather" (a popular buzz phrase with no basis in reality) there will be global cooling.

23 posted on 12/22/2013 6:47:00 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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