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End of the lead bullet? Regulations, bans force switch to 'green' ammo
foxnews.com ^ | 12/18/13 | Perry Chiaramonte/

Posted on 12/18/2013 12:43:22 PM PST by Sleeping Freeper

When the last bullet-producing lead smelter closes its doors on Dec. 31, it will mark a major victory for those who say lead-based ammunition pollutes the environment, but others warn 'green' bullets will cost more, drive up copper prices and do little to help conservation

The bid to ban lead bullets, seen by some as harmful to the environment, started slowly more than a decade ago. But with two dozen states, including California, banning bullets made of the soft, heavy metal, the lead bullet's epitaph was already being written when the federal government finished it off.

First, the military announced plans to phase out lead bullets by 2018.

Then the federal Environmental Protection Agency, citing emissions, ordered the shutdown of the Doe Run company's lead smelter in Herculaneum, Mo., by year's end.

Whether by state or federal regulation, or by market forces, lead bullets will be all but phased out within a few years in favor of so-called green bullets, experts say. While many believe that this will help the environment by keeping lead from contaminating groundwater, others say switching to copper-based bullets will cost hunters and sportsmen more and have little effect on the environment.

"Whatever the EPA's motivation when creating the new lead air quality standard, increasingly restrictive regulation of lead is likely to affect the production and cost of traditional ammunition," the National Rifle Association said in a statement

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KEYWORDS: banglist; leadhysteria
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This is new to me... No wonder there's been such a run on ammo. If it were April 1st I'd think it was a joke...
1 posted on 12/18/2013 12:43:22 PM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: Sleeping Freeper

does it really matter if its lead or steel that tears through the target?


2 posted on 12/18/2013 12:44:07 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Im looking at this as an ‘opportunity’. Perhaps that nasty lead can be replaced w/ steel...or depleted Uranium!!! :) Perhaps the lead haters will live to regret their ‘cunning’ plan...


3 posted on 12/18/2013 12:45:47 PM PST by 556x45
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To: Sleeping Freeper

What we need are safer bullets


4 posted on 12/18/2013 12:46:15 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: GeronL

Lead has more stopping power per caliber.


5 posted on 12/18/2013 12:46:16 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper
lead bullets will be all but phased out within a few years in favor of so-called green bullets...

So when the IRS hunts you down for non-compliance with Obamacare, they will shoot you with eco-friendly green bullets made from at least 85% post-consumer waste.
6 posted on 12/18/2013 12:46:35 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Sleeping Freeper
The bid to ban lead bullets, seen by some as harmful to the environment

Last I knew lead came from......the ground.

7 posted on 12/18/2013 12:46:37 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GeronL

yes


8 posted on 12/18/2013 12:47:47 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

“When the last bullet-producing lead smelter closes its doors “

All the bullet manufacturers say they don’t use primary production lead, they all use secondary reclaimed or recycled lead. This won’t impact bullet makers for a while.

I wonder what this will to to the price of tungsten.


9 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:12 PM PST by DBrow
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To: GeronL

Steel bullets are a bit rough on riflings.


10 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:17 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Not so much. See links.

http://cms.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/12/us-ammunition-industry-to-survive-closure-of-lead-smelter.aspx

http://sierrabullets.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/sierra-responds-how-will-the-closure-of-the-lead-smelting-plant-affect-sierra-bullets/


11 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:20 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: GeronL

I does matter for ammunition that is intended to drop a person with one round. Steel or FMJ tends to go through the intended target, and can result in not stopping a perp from continuing on with their agenda. FMJ can also go through the target and hit bystanders.


12 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:27 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: henkster

I didn’t know that

thanks


13 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:36 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I could be wrong, but I have a sneaking suspicion there will be lead ammo around for quite a while.


14 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:47 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: al baby

lolz


15 posted on 12/18/2013 12:48:56 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

lead-based ammunition pollutes the environment ,but where does lead come from ,D’oh , LOL


16 posted on 12/18/2013 12:49:09 PM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

While this has the immediate impact on lead ammunition, I personally think the possibilities of three-D printing of new types of ammunition are likely to be developed, Perhaps even steel cored ceramic ammunition.

In other words these people may not like what they receive as an alternative to lead ammunition.


17 posted on 12/18/2013 12:49:54 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: SoldierDad; SpaceBar

Somehow when I have a weapon it’s an “assault weapon” but if a jackbooted cop/thug carries one its a “personal defense weapon”.

What you are saying is that FMJ are more dangerous because they go through targets and hit bystanders, yet those bullets won’t be banned. lol.

Crazy liberals.


18 posted on 12/18/2013 12:50:56 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Puppage

Like Arsenic.


19 posted on 12/18/2013 12:51:27 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sleeping Freeper

I think the California lead ban is only for hunting.


20 posted on 12/18/2013 12:52:46 PM PST by 1035rep
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