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To: whattajoke

You act intelligent but play dumb. “Parts of my body? Huh? What parts? I’m so confused.” As though you don’t have a brain. You know as well as I that you have a million working parts like eyes that see and ears designed not only to hear but to work as a gyroscope and a brain, central nervous system and plumbing that work together in sync to make your whole body work like a machine or a city. I’ve said all this already and you want me to keep repeating myself. You look at what I’ve posted on this thread and tell me why just about every part of your body isn’t evidence of purposeful design (use the parts I happened to mention if you have to but that’s just scratching the surface).


164 posted on 12/18/2013 8:19:29 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Respectfully, I am not playing dumb. What’s happening, I think, is that your lack of biological understanding is hindering you from approaching the issue in a scientific way.

Yes, you have repeated over and over how incredible our bodies are. I agree wholeheartedly. (Well, there are a bunch of odd things that were simply byproducts of our evolution, but we’ll not bother with them now.)

When discussing evolution at anything beyond 9th grade level, we don’t discuss “human body,” we don’t discuss “OMG THE EYE!,” we discuss very specific parts of specific parts.

Regardless, you mentioned our eyes (clearly evolved for savannah living and not home computing), our ears (rather terrible little things, relative to other species - also a outcome of our evolution; we stood and thought and became predators so the need to rely on super-hearing was not important) and our brain (clearly an awesome thing), central nervous system (our fish ancestors’ have rather cool ones) and our plumbing system (then one right next to our reproductive/pleasure areas? I have a bone to pick with your designer on that one.)

Ok, so you’ve narrowed it down to maybe 2 years worth of core study. Probably about 200 meters of a stack of papers on these things. And who knows how many terabytes of information online.

We’re getting there. I just asked my son to pick one and he chose “ears.”

Before I get going on this, are you willing to read a shit-ton of work and study done by hundreds of scientists over the course of many decades? To fully understand how our ears - and yes, our gyroscopic inner ear mechanisms - evolved requires you to accept the factual age of the earth and that there are extinct species that inhabited it.

What you will find is that the evolution of the ear is one of the most understood and comprehensive bits of our anatomy, with a very clear lineage all the way down to invertebrates, to fish skull bones, to reptilian pre-ear jaw bones, to mammalian ear bones. It’s a beautiful continuum.

I should also mention that no, we don’t have all the answers. Just a few years ago someone published a paper challenging the the status quo regarding early invertebrate jaw evolution (which later gave rise to our ears).

Because that’s how science works.


175 posted on 12/19/2013 4:56:57 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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