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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
"Let's say for the moment that there is such a thing as irreducible complexity. If there's overwhelming evidence for ID, its proponents should be able to agree on at least a few systems that are irreducibly complex........ Of course, by refusing to posit any such thing, they keep their "theory" unfalsifiable. I suspect that's really the point."

Obviously unaware of Michael Behe, who has in fact posited specific examples.

146 posted on 12/18/2013 4:56:19 PM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: cookcounty

Which of his examples do you think would prove irreducible complexity the best, for novices like me.


148 posted on 12/18/2013 5:15:49 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: cookcounty

Do you have any issue with professor Behe’s admission under oath that ID is equivalent to astrology? (The “A’s” are Behe under oath.)

Q And using your definition, intelligent design is a scientific theory, correct?

A Yes.

Q Under that same definition astrology is a scientific theory under your definition, correct?

A Under my definition, a scientific theory is a proposed explanation which focuses or points to physical, observable data and logical inferences. There are many things throughout the history of science which we now think to be incorrect which nonetheless would fit that — which would fit that definition. Yes, astrology is in fact one, and so is the ether theory of the propagation of light, and many other — many other theories as well.

Q The ether theory of light has been discarded, correct?

A That is correct.

Q But you are clear, under your definition, the definition that sweeps in intelligent design, astrology is also a scientific theory, correct?

A Yes, that’s correct.


150 posted on 12/18/2013 5:19:47 PM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: cookcounty
Obviously unaware of Michael Behe, who has in fact posited specific examples.

Aware of Behe. Also aware that at least some of his examples, as well as his basic argument, has been sufficiently debunked. But that wasn't really my point. Behe published his book 17 years ago. And even so, ID proponents can't agree on when, where, or how this design happened. There is, as far as I know, no research program attempting to answer those questions. There are no testable predictions. There is nothing but an assertion of ignorance (and an assertion that the ignorance is permanent) followed by a "God of the gaps" argument.

173 posted on 12/18/2013 10:18:41 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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