If something like this ever happens to my child, they can all take their false condolences and shove it! I would find all those responsible and carry their severed heads out the hospital door.
...I guess they already calculated the cost to the exchanges and ruled that it wasn’t necessary to have live out on life support...Dr’s can write anything down - where the courts look at them as experts and questioning them can happen - nut not in this case...then again, I know personally my father did not want to live on life support and made sure it was terminated...I guess it would be different since it involves a child...
I had a surgery where I lost 2700cc of blood over a 6 hour period, I was only 9 and probably all of 3’10 at the time. During the whole surgery I never once dropped my BP or went into hypovolemic shock. For this to happen indicates a high level of incompetence by the medical staff.
This is what happens under a socialist health system. They run out of other people money then have to kill you.
Same happens in Europe, we pay into the social system but after very expensive wages to hospital management and hospital directors there is no money for basic care.
I must not forget to mention the illegals who get free care.
Massive bleeding is an unusual complication of this surgery
You can’t blame this on obamacare
Any surgery has risks and that’s why you sign those papers, but you never ever really expect those things to happen
What a tragedy for the family but this is not a case study in obamacare, imo
Nearly every week I read horror stories from the UK about how their socialized health care system is killing patients. Their "Liverpool pathway protocols" are little more than legalized euthanasia for any patient deemed terminal. Hospital care has deteriorated to where pregnant women are delivering their babies in hallways and closets and patients especially the elderly are left uncared for in filthy beds. At least in the US there is legally recourse to hold people responsible, but in a socialized system where the government runs health care not even that is possible.
Death panel in action.
You know I work as an RN and sometimes sucky things happen to patients despite all protocols being followed. Someone reacts to medications in unexpected ways, an artery gets cut or a suture doesn’t hold cause the patient’s tissue was too friable and gives way. A clot gets loose....ect. Tonsillectomies are much more problematic when done beyond the age of 7 or 8 because the tissues are more vascular and subject to hemorrhage. The stories i’m hearing about the post op care and observations concern me since it looks as though the patient may have needed an emergency trache and surgery/cauterization/packing to control the bleeding. Instead...it appears the patient may have aspirated and choked on the clotted blood. That should have never even got that far!
Be that as it may,
it would be interesting to test the responses of certain key administrators by announcing “Take her off life support but no organ donations, I couldn’t bear to know that my child is dead while somebody else’s kid gets to live!”
So there are "Death Panels" after all that make these decisions.
This is not an indictment of Obamacare. There is a small risk of complications with every kind of surgery; this little girl unfortunately suffered these complications.
I know people love to blame, especially when there is potentially money involved, but it may very well be the case that the surgeon followed all the proper protocols. We’ll see once the medical investigation has been done... although the results of that may never be publicized.
I do believe when it's your time, it's your time...... however, unless there's more to this story that hasn't been revealed, something doesn't sound right.
Awful my little had this procedure done at 3 years old. Very scary to hear about this.
I can’t imagine the heartbreak of losing a child and pray that I never experience it.
I don’t think people fully appreciate the risks associated with anesthesia and surgery in general. Sometimes bad things happen.
Also, the little girl looks to be fairly overweight which can contribute to apnea. Surely her parents were made aware of that. I wonder if they eschewed the advice of weight loss for their daughter and insisted on surgery. Or maybe she’d already lost substantial weight....
Regardless, I’m sorry for their loss.
“Sealey told KTVU that Jahi McMath did not want to undergo the tonsillectomy procedure, and even told her mother before she went under that “something bad is going to happen to me.”
Wife has been a nurse for some time and once told me a few surgeons she worked with will postpone an operation if the patient comes out with something to this extent...almost as if they know..
Sat through a briefing by a noted Doctor from the windy city
speaking on the direction the medical community is going to HAVE to go if they wish to survive under the new economy where insurance is NOT going to pay as they have in the past.
What really impressed me was the quote that hospitals kill two hundred and fifty thousand a year.
My heart breaks for the family of this girl.
Without getting into detail, I learned long ago that even “minor” surgery can have devastating impacts. You should also think at least 5X about letting someone open you up or lase you. And, despite their degrees, assurances and confident demeanor, not all doctors know what they’re doing. Research their track records!
I had my tonsils removed as a 15 year old and had the same bleeding thing, of course it was remedied but not before it scared everybody.
I think there must be a special risk for a teenage.
My child hemorrhaged after a tonsil/adenectomy, and it was the devil to try and control. It was a sudden and massive loss of blood.
We spent three very scary days.
I had my tonsils removed about 2 months ago,, the worse thing I ever went through, my face hurt for two weeks.
But I lived, and Im thankful..
In this case, it is likely a genuine “act of God” rather than any form of malpractice. While the strongly bleeding tonsils get the attention, it was likely an unpredictable reaction to the anesthesia that killed her.
To start with, *any* time general anesthesia is administered there is a chance for brain damage or even death.
“Perioperative mortality is mortality in relation to surgery, often defined as death within two weeks of a surgical procedure.”
“A 1997 Canadian retrospective review of 2,830,000 oral surgical procedures in Ontario between 1973–1995 reported only four deaths in cases in which either an oral and maxillofacial surgeon or a dentist with specialized training in anaesthesia administered the general anaesthetic or deep sedation. The authors calculated an overall mortality rate of 1.4 per 1,000,000.”
This is a lot more than it seems, if you consider the enormous number of oral surgeries performed in the US these days.
Next up, though this *didn’t* happen to her, is radically increasing the mortality rate in post surgery patients, are “nosocomial” (acquired in a hospital), antibiotic-resistant infections. Already some 30,000 Americans are dying of these a year, and the number keeps increasing.
They can be very fast. Some MRSA (resistant staph) infections are now killing seemingly healthy people in hours. Post surgical patients, with inhibited immune systems, are like shooting fish in a barrel for this and the dozen other major drug resistant bacterial infections.