Posted on 12/14/2013 10:05:05 PM PST by traumer
China has condemned Shinzo Abe, the Japanese prime minister, for "maliciously slandering" its self-proclaimed air defence zone, ratcheting up the war of words between the neighbours over Beijing's annexation of the skies over a group of disputed islands.
Abe told a news conference that China's recent announcement of the air defence identification zone over disputed islands in the East China Sea was "unjustly violating the freedom of aviation over the high seas" and demanded Beijing rescind it.
In the most bitter remarks so far in the dispute, the Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei defended the zone, which has triggered protests from Japan, the United States and South Korea.
"We express strong dissatisfaction with Japan's leader using an international occasion to maliciously slander China," Hong said in a statement seen on the ministry website on Sunday.
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I believe the Japanese should respond to any provocation by the Chinese. Shoot their planes down, or sink Chinese ships if necessary. To do otherwise would show weakness and encourage the Chinese to take Japan later. This would also let Japan see whether the U.S. would honor commitments to stand by Japan as an ally. Japan can then decide whether it needs to increase their offensive military capability.
Yes, China is the dominant power in Asia, but primarily in economic terms. They have a large army, but a weak air force and navy. Japan can wreak severe damage on China's air force and navy to the point where China's army is irrelevant.
the problem with china is that Chinese disputes are not just with all of China’s neighbors in the south china sea. China has problems with most of the world. But the deepest problem that china has is fracture between the cpc and the pla. The way they heal the fracture is to constantly expand militarily. The CPC has managed to keep the upper hand because the PLA has not won any wars. Nor brought home any spoil.
But the instant the PLA wins anything the balance of power between the PLA and the CPC will shift in the PLA’s favor.
This is what happened in Japan in the early decades of the 20th century. As the military won battles — the civilian government steadily ceded power to the military.
By the time Japan invaded China in the 1930’s-the military was fully in control.
If the Chinese military is allowed to win anything—this will only create in them an appetite for more war.
That’s just the way it works. Everything looks like a nail to a hammer.
The CPC has what in political science is known as a problem of legitimacy. Unlike western democracies and most of the countries along China’s peripery — including Japan and Korea and the Philippines and even Singapore —where power comes from the consent of the governed—in China, power comes from the gun. The military.
China has been blessed so far with good leadership from the CPC. But that won’t last forever. There is a dynastic problem that inheres to communist regimes, no less than imperial ones.
I have predicted financial ruin on the horizon, being in the same camp as many economists dismissed as doomsday prophets.
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Not going to happen. Not when the USA is increasing oil output by 1 million barrels @ day every years for the last three years. Most estimates are that the USA will be able to keep increasing output by at a million barrels @ day for at least the next two years.
This is just huge. Its bigger than the dot com boom of the 1990’s.
And there’s at least one other technological revolution behind it in the form of advanced robotics and 3 d printing.
I would agree 100% with your apocalyptic scenarios if not for the huge transformations that have sprung up in the last 2-3 years. The USA has been De-capitalized for 40 years. The result of the changes in place now will result in an abrupt reversal. We are in the first years of a decades long recapitalization of America.
Why would it be unpleasant for us?
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because the military would gain the upper hand in china.
Their current ambitions go far beyond the south china sea.
And now we have our greatest domestic enemy imaginable in our White House. We’re in a hell of a mess.
It’s not the technology that’s the problem. It’s the welfare state. It never stops growing... until death.
It’s not the technology that’s the problem. It’s the welfare state. It never stops growing... until death.
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agree.
Obamacare has to be killed—and amnesty has to be killed—for a start.
And now we have our greatest domestic enemy imaginable in our White House. We’re in a hell of a mess.
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true.
hard to know how this stuff will actually play out when the USA government seems so anti american and generally incompetent.
hard to know how this stuff will actually play out when the USA government seems so anti american and generally incompetent.
They cannot implement their New World Order until they knock down the USA. Enter Obama.....
Exciting scenario. However imagine the Japannese exercise their capabilities and do what you say and badly bloody China. Do you suppose that those actions would not provoke a huge power struggle in China with the humiliated military demanding reprisal. And what if that military decides to respond with tactical nuclear weapons? Japan which is “under the American nuclear umbrella” would expect and demand an American in kind response. The American “nuclear umbrella” when designed and implemented was when China was weak and largely without nuclear weapons or the means to launch them against the United States. These “conflicts” in Asia can easily escalate. The United States has a duty to its own citizens to reexamine commitments, political and military involvement in Asian affairs. Douglass MacArthur himself warned that one day America would be in this difficulty.
Give the rising Sun Nukes, this time with delivery systems that can reach China.
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