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The Hottest Electric Vehicles Leave Winter Drivers Out in the Cold
The Daily Caller ^ | 12/14/13 | Giuseppe Macri

Posted on 12/14/2013 3:59:04 PM PST by chiller

Engineering breakthroughs like the Tesla Model S may be burning up the electric car market (figuratively and literally), but they’re leaving drivers cold and under-powered in the face of Old Man Winter.

Cold temperatures have adverse effects on batteries, slowing down the incoming and outgoing flow of energy and inevitably losing some in the process. The 250-mile average range of an electric car in normal climate conditions can see its performance reduced by 70-miles on a single charge in average winter conditions. The colder it gets, the shorter than range.

Not only that, the average winter driver tends to turn up the heat — a function that also puts a draw on the battery uncommon during other seasons.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
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To: Flick Lives

Makes perfect sense; thanks.


101 posted on 12/14/2013 6:02:30 PM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Reaganez; jjotto

Model S is a high performance sedan with highest NHTSA safety ratings that has yet to suffer 1 death, paralysis, loss of limb, second or third degree burns. That can transport up to 5 adults plus two kids in comfort and silence. Like a Japanese made Lexus LS460 or German made MB S-Class but better.


How many are on the road? Hey, I think the F-22 Raptor has a similar safety record for similar reasons!


102 posted on 12/14/2013 6:03:15 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SkyDancer

“So with the heat turned up those forty mile electrics can only go to the end of the block.”

Sorry, that’s funny as hell.

LOL!


103 posted on 12/14/2013 6:03:36 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: chiller

http://www.heatball.de/en/index.php


104 posted on 12/14/2013 6:05:34 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Reaganez

Reaganez, and I mean this sincerely, no /sarc tag, bless you for being an early adopter. Technological innovation almost always starts at the luxury end of the spectrum, then trickles down to the everyday car. Without the early adopters paying the big bucks to keep the innovators afloat, we’d never progress beyond the Model T.


105 posted on 12/14/2013 6:05:48 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: dhs12345; Chode

Did your bug also get the windshield fluid pressure from the spare tire. You had to hook a tube up to the spare tire.


I had one those while stationed at RAF Lakenheath in the UK! I had to remember to refill the spare everytime I refueled!

The passenger’s side was on the right and the door latch wasn’t very strong. I nearly lost my girlfriend (eventually became my exwife) on a sharp turn.


106 posted on 12/14/2013 6:07:37 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: carriage_hill

“Electric Cars don’t have alternators”

I assumed they did. My error; thanks.


If they did: You could stand in a bucket, grab the handle, lift yourself up and carry yourself around.

;-)


107 posted on 12/14/2013 6:10:14 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

For $100,000, there are lots of nice choices. It’s really not as big as the Lexus LS or Mercedes S and competitors. More like the Mercedes CLS or Audi A7, and the extra money could get the CLS63 AMG or Audi S7! And there have been no entry-level Teslas.


108 posted on 12/14/2013 6:18:31 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Lol. The German engineers probably discovered it during the final test drive right before full-on production and thought — “hey, we’ll just hook it up to the spare tire.”

Hey, isn’t kludge a German word?

Your ex-wife? Maybe it was an omen. ;)


109 posted on 12/14/2013 6:18:49 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Lol. The German engineers probably discovered it during the final test drive right before full-on production and thought — “hey, we’ll just hook it up to the spare tire.”


It was made in the era before “Fahrvegnugen.”


110 posted on 12/14/2013 6:21:16 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: M-cubed
Do you have to start the coal fire yourself?

Yes he does. Exactly the way you do every time you flick on a light switch.

111 posted on 12/14/2013 6:25:59 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Reaganez

Vancouver BC or Vancouver WA?


112 posted on 12/14/2013 6:26:52 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: IamConservative
Sounds like you never owned a Volkswagon Beetle. Worse than freezing your buns off in winter, the driver sat upright in the seat and close to the nearly vertical windshield. The windshield would ice over on the inside. Shivering with limited visibility was no way to navigate winter roads.

There's a good reason why production of the original Beetle and Microbus lingered down in Mexico and Brazil; the winters there favored the design. I recall leafing through the J.C. Whitney catalogs in the '70s - there were pages of auxiliary (12v electric) heaters and defrosters in the VW section.

I'd take an air-cooled VW over an electric, any day. At least I can modify the VW to improve its weaker features.

113 posted on 12/14/2013 6:28:34 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: chiller
But they drove with pride.

-PJ

114 posted on 12/14/2013 6:29:26 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
And where does your electricity come form, the juice fairy? Sheesh

Here in PG&E land mostly nat gas, nuke and hydro, with a little solar and wind for seasoning.

Note that oil didn't make the mix.

Where does yours come from?

115 posted on 12/14/2013 6:35:01 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Well that’s all true.

I just figured they knew that.


116 posted on 12/14/2013 6:35:50 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Lol. Yup. Back when the car was designed for the “folks.”
117 posted on 12/14/2013 6:37:05 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: cableguymn
I’d keep yours outside in case it bursts in to flames.

A fallback position in case the heater ain't cuttin' it.

118 posted on 12/14/2013 6:37:50 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Figment
When the oil price drops below the cost of pumping it out of the ground and supporting all the infrastructure to get it from the well head to the refinery the oil company will shut off the valves and turn off the pumps until such a time as they can, oh I dunno, actually make money from that well.

They've been doing this for generations. Where have you been?

119 posted on 12/14/2013 6:39:59 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
well THAT would certainly not be good for a relationship...

tell the truth i don't remember using the washer though i prolly did, i do remember using an ice scraper on the windshield though

120 posted on 12/14/2013 6:40:36 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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