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To: C. Edmund Wright
True. Ultimately, social conservatives need to recognized that social goals must be achieved through social means (i.e. persuasion) rather than political means (i.e. coercion).
49 posted on 12/13/2013 10:21:53 AM PST by kobald
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To: kobald
True. Ultimately, social conservatives need to recognized that social goals must be achieved through social means (i.e. persuasion) rather than political means (i.e. coercion).

Agree.

54 posted on 12/13/2013 10:25:43 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: kobald

You make a good point. In my early 20’s, before I was a Christian, I came to be pro life based on the biological fact of what an abortion was…..which is, without a doubt, the killing of a baby. This is how we can win this issue…..with biological fact….even among those who will never come to faith. And we need their votes!

Becoming a Christian certainly strengthened this in me - but no Huckatorum spouting self righteousness is what made the sale. Truth did! Logic did! We can make intellectually devatating cases on almost all social conservative issues….while emphasizing the proper role of secular government, which is LIMITED!!!


61 posted on 12/13/2013 10:29:07 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: kobald
Ultimately, social conservatives need to recognized that social goals must be achieved through social means (i.e. persuasion) rather than political means (i.e. coercion).

LOL, you must be joking.

There is only one side in this war using coercion, and it ain't the "social conservatives."

Thanks forthe help, noob, but you and the National Journal are full of shit.

66 posted on 12/13/2013 10:32:03 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: kobald

“True. Ultimately, social conservatives need to recognized that social goals must be achieved through social means (i.e. persuasion) rather than political means (i.e. coercion). “


Exactly. Stunts like mandatory ultrasound will only get you people like Governor McAuliffe, and send younger women fleeing for the exits. And you have to know your audience. Social issue positions that’ll work in Texas or the deep South may not play so well in Yankeeland. Nuance matters.


73 posted on 12/13/2013 10:34:30 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: kobald
social conservatives need to recognized that social goals must be achieved through social means (i.e. persuasion) rather than political means (i.e. coercion).

Coercion would be Supreme Court decisions like Roe vs. Wade.

All these issues are state issues and the people of the state should be deciding them, not judges.

Opposing judicial tyranny is a winning issue regardless of the age group of the voters.

96 posted on 12/13/2013 10:50:29 AM PST by Kazan
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