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To: Partisan Gunslinger
>>"Were" cast down? Hasn't happened yet.<<

Oh he was indeed cast out of heaven after he rebelled.

Isaiah 14:12 How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how are you cut down to the ground, who did weaken the nations!

He still has access but that is no longer his abode as it was.

“One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, 'Where have you come from?’ Satan answered the LORD, ‘From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it’" (Job 1:6-7).

He will be forever banned during the tribulation.

>>You say that angels are in churches but then say that evil angels aren't angels after they're cast down.<<

The angels in the assembly of believers are NOT those angels that were cast down. Those that were cut down with Satan are called demons.

>>The fallen angels were called angels while on the earth, I'm not getting your obsession with these semantics.<<

You would have to show the scripture that shows those who were cast down with Satan are referred to as angels.

84 posted on 12/14/2013 10:42:44 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Oh he was indeed cast out of heaven after he rebelled. Isaiah 14:12 How are you fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how are you cut down to the ground, who did weaken the nations! He still has access but that is no longer his abode as it was. “One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them. The LORD said to Satan, 'Where have you come from?’ Satan answered the LORD, ‘From roaming through the earth and going back and forth in it’" (Job 1:6-7). He will be forever banned during the tribulation.

Michael is holding Satan at the moment. At the sixth trump Satan and his angels will be cast down.

The angels in the assembly of believers are NOT those angels that were cast down. Those that were cut down with Satan are called demons.

Exactly. You say that the good angels are still called angels when they are on the earth, but then say that evil angels can be called angels in heaven but cannot be called angels while on the earth. Satan's angels are evil whether on earth or in heaven. So why the dichotomy?

You would have to show the scripture that shows those who were cast down with Satan are referred to as angels.

Again, they have not been cast down yet. Rev 12:9 His "angels" will be cast down with him. The fallen angels were angels while on earth, and Satan's angels will be angels on earth also.

I'm still not getting why these semantics mean so much to you.

85 posted on 12/14/2013 10:54:13 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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