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To: Norm Lenhart; LibLieSlayer; Windflier

In conjunction with Norm’s thoughts in post 209, we need to be mindful of something that has been warned about - and it explains to a large degree, the problem being addressed:

“The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. “ -2 Thessalonians 2:9-10

Without getting into a theological argument - the historic and biblical fact is that all civilizations that have collapsed and fell into ruin - have suffered this same exact fate. While Paul is specifically addressing the final fall of man’s age in the world in this passage - the fact is lawlessness in a society is the working of Satan himself. When such lawlessness exists in a society, a people who benefit from corruption or have learned to live under it, will not hear any truth - even if the truth will save them from calamity.

But here is the root cause of what Norm is talking about:

“And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” - 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

When you read people who think they are ‘conservative’ who demand we vote for a lesser evil and support a corrupted party - they are people who are strongly deluded to believe the lies, who will not hear the truth, even when the truth would save them. They are comfortable with the status quo, fear evil more than they fear God and/or benefit from the corruption itself.

As such - like Norm suggests - we have to leave them to their own destruction. There is no pleading with them, or winning them over by persuasion. We have to walk away from them for they are in league with the enemy. They will attack you with more vigor than even those they claim to oppose. Treason from within is much worse than an external enemy. We have nothing in common with such people any longer. The social compact is dissolved because we let evil take up residence among us. We either flee and resist evil, or we will be conquered by it.

God is not going to fight this battle for us because we as a people have refused to take a stand against evil. We’ve done nothing to protect the gift of liberty bequeathed to us - therefore God is not going to protect us from the evil we have surrendered to.

It is humble to admit our sin, repent and then stand and resist evil. What we have to beware of, is those who tell us to sit quiet and wait on the Lord.

God was waiting on us to stand up for our principles and faith.


220 posted on 12/13/2013 10:22:56 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

I agree with you and I post against satan every day. I am a sinner but I repent. I love GOD and JESUS and I belong to them. I will fight for the gift that THE FATHER bestowed upon us through our Founder’s and the touch of the Holy Spirit within them. I will fight against the evil of the republican party and the total evil of the democrat party... and I will fight evil in this life and I will fight for the salvation or our republic for as long as GOD allows me to. I put no faith in man... but only in GOD... through his SON.


223 posted on 12/13/2013 10:41:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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