Sit back and enjoy your Obamacare.
Posted on 12/09/2013 8:00:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Just as cars can’t go anywhere without drivers and employees can’t work without bosses, health care doesn’t happen when there are no doctors around. And when an estimated 70 percent of the doctors in the nation’s deepest-blue state are rebelling against Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act is forcing a critical decision: America will have to junk Obamacare and go back to square one on health insurance reform, or trash the last vestige of private health care in this country by forcing doctors to do the government’s bidding.
The rebellion among California physicians was detailed earlier this week by Washington Examiner senior investigative reporter Richard Pollock. “Independent insurance brokers who work with both insurance companies and doctor networks estimate that about 70 percent of California's 104,000 licensed doctors are boycotting the exchange,” Pollock wrote. The president and speaker of the legislative body of the California Medical Association -- the Golden State chapter of the Obamacare-endorsing American Medical Association -- both confirmed to Pollock that the rebellion is widespread and intensely felt.
California's doctor rebellion isn't unique. Pollock previously reported comparable situations at 15 other locations around the country. Not only are thousands of doctors saying no to Obamacare, so are major health insurance providers, including United Healthcare, Aetna and Cigna, as well as some of the nation's most famous hospitals....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Of course they will unionize. Doctors unionize in all socialized medical systems.
God bless you FRiend!
I hope that your future is bright, and unsullied by the mess that Obamacare is making of your noble profession.
(20 yrs in the ER...my God you have seen a lot of strange stuff)
The doctors will retire and those left will be medical technicians not doctors.
“Obamacare may expose this alliance and how ruthless both will go to get what they want. If the people wake up and revolt, two groups will hang side by side from the lamp posts of America, corporate CEO’s and big gov politicians.”
I hope I live to see it! The RATs aren’t the only ones needing a lamp post.
How do they propose to enforce this if the doctors stick together? They could try to take away the licenses of 70% of physicians, but what then? Will Obamacare suddenly become a success if they do that?
Well, the IRS didn't hire those 16,000 more agents for no reason...
I think I’d look at the German system. There are doctors in Germany who will not take the state-run public insurance card. So you make an arrangement involving cash. The doctors who typically fall into this area....are your better-than-average doctors, who know they are better than what you get with the public clinic concept. The positive with the cash arrangement? You tend to get seen...even on short-notice.
Sit back and enjoy your Obamacare.
Then without tort reform those doctors will find themselves in an impossible position. They will bear the responsibility for bad results without having the authority to change the system that made those results inevitable.
I wrote the following and posted it before 0bamaCare became law.
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."
That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?
Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.
Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate.
Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim DunkinAnother Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right
Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal
To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right
OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH
Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy
Bad Laws and Unintended Consequences, part 1.
Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
yep
ObamaCare would have to give them immunity from malpractice, which it probably will eventually
Not going to happen, at least not with a stick... I retired from HP at 55 because “I could”. I had the resources I needed.
The number of doctors that are reaching retirement age is huge... What are they going to do, tell them they can’t retire?
They may be able to offer them some kink of tax benefit that would keep them working, but that would be unprecedented.
” If he refuses he forfeits membership in the”Federal Association of Physicians”, and thus cannot practice medicine on any patients in the states or territories of the United States of America.”
If the doctors close to retirement retired as many are, it would be over...
Kind of like the knockout "game" victims striking back.
It’s actually difficult where I live to find a doctor who isn’t Pakistani.
More need to go into politics.
The trial lawyers will fight that with everything they've got. I think it's more likely that Obama will try to demonize doctors who refuse to participate in his scam as greedy, uncaring, capitalist pigs. That will decrease the supply of doctors and will kill and cripple Americans, but it may be a politically viable strategy if the MSM pumps out enough pro-Obamacare propaganda. And they will.
What seems to be missing here is the fact that the reimbursement rates for Medicaid patients is below what it costs to provide the service. 40% of doctors don’t accept Medicaid patients for that reason. If the government forces doctors in private practice to accept all Medicaid patients, the doctors will go broke.
” I think it’s more likely that Obama will try to demonize doctors who refuse to participate in his scam as greedy, uncaring, capitalist pigs.”
None of that will work. Too many of the good ones are close to retirement and have a lot of money...
I think your definition of "will work" is not the same as Obama's. He wants to transform the country into a socialist utopia. If there are a few casualties along the way, well, you gotta break eggs to make omelets.
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