[Will88]

In both countries, immigrants enter a supposedly closed society that refuses to let anyone rise — and they nevertheless rise, while the native-born at the bottom remain at the bottom.

The native born whites at the bottom in England have probably been near the bottom for a few centuries. This might be evidence of the role of genetics, and that, regrettably, those at the lower end of intelligence gradually settle at the lower end of societal success and remain there.

[maica]

The native born whites at the bottom in England have probably been near the bottom for a few centuries. This might be evidence of the role of genetics, and that, regrettably, those at the lower end of intelligence gradually settle at the lower end of societal success and remain there.

Not true. I recommend the writing of Theodore Dalrymple re "life at the bottom".

There will always be variation in individual intelligence, but the UK 'social welfare' system of "supporting" (keeping down) whole communities of unproductive people has created a dead zone of parasites. It is evil and ever more destructive of the larger community!

[1010RD]

IIRC the nickname for native born whites at the bottom in England is yob. Not very inspiring.