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Why I Wouldn't See 12 Years a Slave With a White Person
The Atlantic ^ | November 27, 2013 | Enuma Okoro

Posted on 11/27/2013 4:45:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Rembrandt

“Is there any way to research the changes in the anger level of black people over the years, from 1900 to 2000?”

No real need to do research. Art reflects the culture and mood of the people, and we have plenty of examples of black art from that period to look at that can tell us what you are looking for. Music is probably the easiest to look at, because black Americans made a heck of a lot of it in the 20th century.

Early 20th century “race” music wasn’t very angry at all. Sad, hopeful, joyous, rambunctious, defiant, and funny, but not much anger. In the 40-50s, with doo wop and rhythm and blues, the music tended to be similar in form to the precursors but more upbeat and modern, and more appealing across racial lines too. If anything, there was even less anger and more happiness reflected in the music of that period.

In the early 60s, you got soul music, which covered a range as big as most of the previous styles combined, and really jumped the racial barrier. Still, Motown and Atlantic soul records didn’t rule the charts with angry songs, at least not in that period.

I think the late 60s, early 70s is where you will see the first real reflections of growing anger in black music. Marvin Gaye came out with the first hit, black produced “protest” record with What’s Goin On?, but it wasn’t a very angry protest. As the 70s progressed, though, there is a really significant increase in the anger showing through in the music. Listening to later Gaye albums like Trouble Man, or Curtis Mayfield’s stuff from that era, and you can hear it.

Then, in the 80s, you got rap and hip hop music, which was just party music at first, but quickly evolved into some of the angriest music around by the late 80s/90s. So I think your assessment of the anger starting after the Great Society and growing ever since seems to show in the music pretty well.


101 posted on 11/27/2013 11:07:27 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: fr_freak

You could have told her that Klan members were all Democrats.

And watch her head explode.


102 posted on 11/28/2013 4:16:15 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The person who wrote this article assumes that I as a white person care deeply about losing her friendship because of what happened well before I was born. I file her comments in the section of things I don't rightly give a damn about. If she and others like her want to think nasty things about me and/or avoid me because I'm not the same skin color, she can go right ahead. I put as much thought and care into worrying what she thinks about me as I do about white people who don't like me...nothing.

Oh, and by the way, we'll give her a little test. It's after midnight. She can walk a mile down some street populated exclusively by black people (especially those wonderful young males with their baggy clothes, hats turned sideways, and blaring their rap music), or she can walk through and all-white neighborhood. Which one would she choose?

103 posted on 11/28/2013 4:18:42 AM PST by driftless2
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To: EEGator
"silver lining...not having children"

Hooray for that!!! Now if she can just convince a lot of her liberal friends, white and black, to not have children, in twenty years time this country would start looking much better.

104 posted on 11/28/2013 4:20:54 AM PST by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I won’t be watching it with a white person either.


105 posted on 11/28/2013 4:20:58 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: ckilmer; Irenic

indeed she was


106 posted on 11/28/2013 5:43:39 AM PST by Nifster
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To: ExGeeEye

You completely missed my sarcasm. I wrote: “Never end a sentence with a PROPOSITION.” That is a spoof on the time-honored grammatical rule of not ending a sentence with a PREPOSITION.


107 posted on 11/28/2013 5:57:08 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’m not a racist.

If she has to have that as her first sentence, she probably is. From the rest of her article, she certainly is.

108 posted on 11/28/2013 5:57:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ought-six

And you missed mine :) Every sentence in my post ended with a preposition :D

That’s a heckuva note to go out on ;)


109 posted on 11/28/2013 5:59:18 AM PST by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: Misterioso
Sounds like a movie which white people should ignore. They just won’t be able to ‘get it.’ I’ll wait to see it in the safety of my own home.

You do NOT want to see it in an audience which includes any significant number of black strangers, who may come out of the movie in an angry mood.

110 posted on 11/28/2013 6:01:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: EEGator
Thinking immediately of my two little nephews who are growing up black and unarmed in America.

So, arm the little bastards. Teach them not to be murderers.

111 posted on 11/28/2013 6:08:59 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Rembrandt
Is there any way to research the changes in the anger level of black people over the years, from 1900 to 2000?

The incidence of black on white crime would be one indication.

112 posted on 11/28/2013 6:14:02 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: EEGator

I’m thinking there is a definite silver lining to this woman not having children.


113 posted on 11/28/2013 6:15:45 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

She just wants to whine and be the eternal victim.


114 posted on 11/28/2013 6:18:06 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Rembrandt
black people (outside of the biggest cities) were pretty content before 1965, but that anger level began to build coincident with the onset of the Great Society.

During that time period, the Soviets were lavishing their propaganda on the college students and inner city blacks in order to "divide and conquer". It worked pretty well as can be seen by the existence of Communist hippies (liberals) and blacks.

Check out the various factions that comprise the RAT rank and file. They are not simply "Americans" but rather each is identifiable as some kind of special interest group.

Some time back, this was an answer to my own question: "Just because a person is black, why do they have to be a Communist?"

115 posted on 11/28/2013 6:19:45 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Boogieman
We used to care. We tried to bow and scrape and make amends. Didn’t work. They hate us anyway, and all signs say that they will always hate us. So why should we bother caring about how they feel when nothing we can do, short of all killing ourselves, will do anything to change it?

They don't hate because of what white people have done. They hate because of what white people ARE.

They look around and see white people founding major corporations. They see Asians and Latinos starting their own businesses and making a go of it. What are their more prosperous black friends doing? Being government employees, or being academics in "reserved" sections of the university, or being the "diversity officer" in a company run by white people.

It's easier to hate white people than to admit that blacks have to stop whining and work harder in school at passing math and science, and learning to write and speak proper English.

116 posted on 11/28/2013 7:39:39 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Off topic, but my pastor spoke a bit about your namesake during his sermon last night on the history of Thanksgiving...


117 posted on 11/28/2013 7:46:54 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ckilmer; Kenny Bunk

Great post ck.


118 posted on 11/28/2013 9:08:59 AM PST by golux
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To: gusty

Great point!


119 posted on 11/28/2013 5:47:27 PM PST by miserare (Sebelius is Obama's Mengele.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And compare life expectancies

I could go on and on

I am just sick of all this white

Its a soft race war on my tribe

Hell with the enemy

And white collaborators


120 posted on 11/28/2013 10:59:29 PM PST by wardaddy (we have their bare throats....no time to go wobbly.....destroy them)
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