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As Marine John Bernard titles his blog, "Let them fight or bring them home!"
1 posted on 11/26/2013 9:17:14 PM PST by huldah1776
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My thoughts exactly, let them do what they were trained to do or bring them home. The more restrictive the ROE, the more our troops pay.


2 posted on 11/26/2013 9:21:13 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: huldah1776; Alaska Wolf

Their rules of engagement should be no tighter than the rules our own police operate under.


3 posted on 11/26/2013 9:27:08 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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All we need there is a drone station.
The place is not even suitable to place our people at an airbase.


5 posted on 11/26/2013 10:00:14 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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This is so ridiculous, it’s sickening and again I ask, where the ‘f’ is code pink????

Nevermind, it’s a rhetorical question.


6 posted on 11/26/2013 10:01:32 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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must read book on this very matter

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They are relentless in pushing back on this travesty .


7 posted on 11/26/2013 10:10:47 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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I don’t understand why anyone would join the military in this day and age. I don’t understand why anyone who is currently in the military would stay in the military.

I can only assume it’s for the paycheck ‘cause there ain’t no jobs for them.


8 posted on 11/26/2013 11:25:35 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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Since Obama took office , the number of casualties our troops have suffered have more than doubled and have almost tripled over the number of casualties suffered under 8 years of George Bush, including all the casualties suffered under the full, all out combat in the first few years of the war.
9 posted on 11/26/2013 11:46:20 PM PST by rdcbn
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“... The rules of engagement place the burden on U.S. air and ground troops to confirm with certainty that a Taliban fighter is armed before they can fire - even if they are 100 percent sure the target is the enemy. In some cases, aerial gunships have been denied permission to fire even though they reported that targets on the move were armed ...

“... “U.S. forces shall not enter Afghan homes for the purposes of military operations, except under extraordinary circumstances involving urgent risk to life and limb of U.S. nationals,” Mr. Obama pledged ...

“Terrorist-hunting missions will require U.S. personnel to engage in combat by accompanying Afghans on counterterrorism raids and supplying close-air support. That is why the rules for when U.S. troops can and cannot fire on the enemy or enter a dwelling remain important ...”


The formerly less restrictive ROEs were responsible for the Seal Team 6 RPG attack and the total lack of reponse.


12 posted on 11/27/2013 3:05:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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I wonder if an objective analysis would show that more of our American troop injuries and deaths are caused by our own government than by enemy action if we could fight without the current ROEs?


13 posted on 11/27/2013 3:09:48 AM PST by Truth29
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How many generals have resigned or publicly complained about these PC rules of engagements which our killing American soldiers?

None. This gives me a clear picture of the leadership in the military today.


14 posted on 11/27/2013 3:15:57 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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The old rules of engagement were an insult to all American service members over the centuries who have fought for this country. The new ROE are worse (see #2).

1. The rules of engagement place the burden on U.S. air and ground troops to confirm with certainty that a Taliban fighter is armed before they can fire — even if they are 100 percent sure the target is the enemy. In some cases, aerial gunships have been denied permission to fire even though they reported that targets on the move were armed.

2. “U.S. forces shall not enter Afghan homes for the purposes of military operations, except under extraordinary circumstances involving urgent risk to life and limb of U.S. nationals,” Mr. Obama pledged in a letter to the Afghan leader.

This obscenity means that armed enemy within a dwelling simply have to wait for troops to become targets, and then they can fire with impunity. Our troops are forbidden to enter that fighting position that is also a dwelling because they will be told "there is no threat to life or limb if you just leave it alone and exit the area."

These ROE are additional grounds for impeachment.

15 posted on 11/27/2013 3:37:22 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Afghanistan is just another Korea and Vietnam.

Its a limited war, a police action.

A higher tech, lower casualty version of Korea and Vietnam.

Its ironic to realize that the supply lines for both sides in this war run through the same country, Pakistan.

The Taliban of Afghanistan who enabled Bin Laden were the creation of the Pakistani intelligence agency the ISI.


20 posted on 11/27/2013 4:32:08 AM PST by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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I read “Lone Survivor” by Marcus Lutrell. He said that the reason everyone in his team got killed but him was largely because they didn’t shoot a shepherd that they knew would alert the enemy. They were afraid of repercussions from the media if it was found out. His team essentially died because of political correctness.


24 posted on 11/27/2013 5:31:47 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether the majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Revolting cat!; GeronL

“First you must fix the Obamacare website!”


25 posted on 11/27/2013 5:37:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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What is this? Obamacare version of ROE.
Soldiers should be able to shoot at anything THEY deem hostile. They should not fear JAG lawyers more than they fear the enemy.


26 posted on 11/27/2013 6:05:11 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Democrats believe in a two-party system—the masters and the slaves.)
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We might as well SURRENDER at this point!


28 posted on 11/27/2013 6:20:08 AM PST by 2harddrive
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Fight to win or don’t fight.


32 posted on 11/27/2013 7:26:49 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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This is very simple. If we’re not at war, using rules of war, then our _warriors_ must not be there.

This whole operation has become foreign aid for the enemy and _rare_ friend in the Pieceful religious nations.


36 posted on 11/27/2013 9:10:26 AM PST by veracious
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Pretty soon the ROE will require all troops to convert to Islam upon contact with the enemy.


40 posted on 11/27/2013 1:46:22 PM PST by Wanderer99
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“U.S. forces shall not enter Afghan homes for the purposes of military operations, except under extraordinary circumstances involving urgent risk to life and limb of U.S. nationals,”

Bull$@$t, dear leader.


43 posted on 11/28/2013 3:34:53 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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