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That's what I'm talking about! Who usurped the Constitution and allowed for the massive power of the Federal Government to be directed against the citizens of this country for collection of a tax on our labor like slaves? The same SOBs that gave us the Federal Reserve and who have now made us bankrupt.
1 posted on 11/19/2013 8:24:49 AM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

Woodrow Wilson and Sen Aldrich of NEW YAWK.


2 posted on 11/19/2013 8:26:20 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Errant

Abolish career politicians first: then there is no reason for a hopelessly complex, contradictory, and economically damaging tax code. And no need for Storm Troopers to enforce it.


3 posted on 11/19/2013 8:27:58 AM PST by SC_Pete
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This is the only way you can effectively cripple a tyrant; remove his funding sources. The liberals have kept the consevatives up against the ropes so long it’s refreshing to see them go on the defensive for a change.


4 posted on 11/19/2013 8:28:01 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Errant
How did Tom Cryer become the late Tom Cryer?

Did the IRS help make that happen?

6 posted on 11/19/2013 8:30:55 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Errant
From the article:

"In Cryer’s case, a 12-member jury in federal jury him not guilty of the IRS’ allegations..."At the time, he told WND that his argument was that “income” did not necessarily refer to any money that a person acquires, but rather limited categories such as profit and interest.

"He said the free exchange of labor for compensation has been upheld as a right by the Supreme Court, but that doesn’t necessarily make the compensation “income” for tax purposes."

How is this not a national precedent?

7 posted on 11/19/2013 8:34:40 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Errant

A sensible import tariff policy could replace the tax revenue from income taxes.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 8:39:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Errant
It is about time we got rid of those criminals each year that goes by and each democrat that doesn’t like someone the IRS is sicked on them..Obama has abused his power and so has these criminal liars with the IRS..get rid of Obama and also his cronies at the IRS..
13 posted on 11/19/2013 8:42:25 AM PST by PLD
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To: Errant

Abolish the IRS?
How about abolish 80 percent of ALL gub mint?
Worthless bunch of leaches that they are!


14 posted on 11/19/2013 8:43:44 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Errant

http://www.repeal16thamendment.com/repeal.asp
As crazy as this initially sounds, it targets the right beast.


17 posted on 11/19/2013 8:48:49 AM PST by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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Once again, Congress is hiding behind the IRS as the cause of all the taxation problems in this country. You, Congress, wrote and passed these ridiculous laws. It is you who screwed this country, not the IRS.


24 posted on 11/19/2013 8:55:13 AM PST by GeorgeTex (Obama-The Ultimate Terrorist Weapon.)
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To: Errant

What? get rid of the agency that acts as a giant welfare agency, taking money from those who earn it and passing it to those who vote for more money? The agency that keeps people off welfare by giving them a welfare check disguised as a job? The agency that hounds and harasses innocent hard-working citizens?

never happen.


32 posted on 11/19/2013 9:15:55 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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bkmk


39 posted on 11/19/2013 9:28:24 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Errant

There is an important finesse point here. Constitutional amendments *by themselves* do nothing. They must have “enabling acts” to function.

This is best known with Prohibition, which itself did nothing until its enabling act, the Volstead Act, was passed. Importantly, president Wilson tried to veto it, and was overridden by congress.

Trying to overturn the 16th Amendment would be extremely difficult, compared to overturning its enabling acts.

And here’s the zinger: if congress chose to do so, it could so thoroughly reinterpret the 16th Amendment with its new enabling act, that it would effectively *end* the income tax, and replace it with some other form of taxation.


44 posted on 11/19/2013 10:03:30 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (War on Terror news at rantburg.com)
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To: Errant; Man50D; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

Sounds like a plan to me!

Repeal the 16th Amendment!

Replace the income tax with the FairTax!

Abolish the IRS!

http://www.fairtax.org


61 posted on 11/19/2013 9:16:02 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Errant
Remember what I've said is wrong with our income tax system:

1. 30,000 tax lobbyists--HALF the lobbyists in Washington, DC--fighting for every scrap of a tax loophole. And you get political corruption on a huge scale over this.
2. The result is a tax code over 70,000 pages long so complex that it makes James Joyce's Finnegans Wake almost easy to read in comparison. Even the IRS can't figure out much of the tax code!
3. The sheer complexity means exorbitant yearly compliance costs, estimated by some economists to soon approach US$500 BILLION per year (and climbing fast in each subsequent year, especially with the imposition of Obamacare mandates through the tax code).
4. It also encourages the outsourcing of millions of jobs, thousands of factories, and hundreds of corporate headquarters for tax avoidance reasons. Care to explain why Apple manufactures its products in China, and why Google has to used that highly-complex and expensive Double Irish with Dutch Sandwich accounting scheme to lower its tax bill?
5. It results in (by some estimates) around US$15 TRILLION in American-owned liquid assets sitting in offshore financial centers and other foreign banks for tax avoidance reasons (care to explain all those "banks" in the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, British Virgin Islands, and so on? Or why Apple has 70% of its US$147 billion liquid asset reserve outside the USA?).
6. Government uses the tax code as a political instrument to favor or punish political constituencies as little as ONE taxpaying entity. The recent scandal using the IRS to target conservative 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) groups is clear proof of this.
7. Because the IRS needs to know intimate details of personal and business financial records in tax return filings, there are potentially serious issues with invasion of privacy. Care to explain why former Presidential candidate Mitt Romney's private tax returns ended up in the offices of Senator Harry Reid (D-NV)?
8. The IRS assumes you're guilty of tax evasion, and you end up having less rights than most common criminals!

Complete political and economic insanity. May the tax overhaul I mentioned in my tagline needs to be seriously considered.

63 posted on 11/19/2013 11:44:30 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Errant

b to the friggin’ t!


64 posted on 11/20/2013 3:16:08 AM PST by Principled
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