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Renisha McBride's Alleged Shooter to Be Charged With Murder
abcnews ^ | November 15, 2013 | Christina Ng

Posted on 11/15/2013 9:19:59 AM PST by Uncle Chip

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To: dfwgator
Have Je$$e and Al flown in, yet?

More importantly has Eric Holder organized a lynch mob yet?

21 posted on 11/15/2013 9:49:22 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m surprised at Kim Worthy for charging him like this. She is only caving to pressure. Sad state of affairs. They have been holding rallies, marching literally in the streets, calling for blood, giving out false statements about what happened to the media who puts it all on TV. This was self defense. She came to his door at 4 in the morning. Her blood alcohol was .2 something. I hope the cops dusted for her prints on the door handle. He should have heeded the good advise to drag the body indoors.


22 posted on 11/15/2013 9:51:20 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: DannyTN
"Well, it sounds like he was just a little too ready for the zombie apocalypse."

I'm trying to imagine how I would have responded (I am not a gun owner). I don't remember what time of the night this was, but suppose it was after I had gone to bed and I heard someone kicking and scratching at my door, shouting incoherently, perhaps using vulgar language. I'd be concerned at the least, and probably somewhat alarmed. I look through the window or peephole and see a bloodied, wild-eyed black female, apparently drunk and incoherent.

I figure I have two choices: open the door and see if I can talk to her, or call 911. I THINK I'd call 911, because you don't know if this is a setup, a home invasion, or whatever. Normally a prowler doesn't call attention to their presence by banging on the door and screaming, but - as I said - it could have been a pretext for a home invasion or robbery. But, the fact is that you don't know what's really going on.

From what I've seen so far, shooting her was not the way to go and the homeowner overreacted.
23 posted on 11/15/2013 9:51:34 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: RightOnTheBorder

This wasn’t in Detroit.


24 posted on 11/15/2013 9:51:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: FrdmLvr

From the facts I’ve seen, or presumed facts, it will be hard to justify this as self-defense. She was unarmed and was outside the house.


25 posted on 11/15/2013 9:53:41 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: cripplecreek

What’s your assessment on this and the neighborhood???


26 posted on 11/15/2013 9:54:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Steve_Seattle

I thought about the same thing.

Thoughts that would run through my mind. Is she bloody because she attacked someone and I’m next? Is she dangerous? Unable to ascertain that, the likelihood, I’d open the door to help her is very low.

But I would call for help, and I would never shoot her through a locked door unless she had a weapon that she was starting to aim at me.


27 posted on 11/15/2013 9:54:58 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Steve_Seattle

I thought about the same thing.

Thoughts that would run through my mind. Is she bloody because she attacked someone and I’m next? Is she dangerous? Unable to ascertain that, the likelihood, I’d open the door to help her is very low.

But I would call for help, and I would never shoot her through a locked door unless she had a weapon that she was starting to aim at me.


28 posted on 11/15/2013 9:54:58 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: RightOnTheBorder

It happened in Dearborn Heights. It’s the Wayne County prosecutor who filed the charges. Wayne Co. covers a lot of territory outside Detroit. I would love to get called to sit on that jury.


29 posted on 11/15/2013 9:55:12 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Alleged”? He has admitted that he was holding the shotgun, that it went off, and the shot killed her.


30 posted on 11/15/2013 9:58:20 AM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Uncle Chip
"In the audio of 9-1-1 sending police officers to the scene of McBride's shooting, the dispatcher reportedly described receiving a call from a man who said he shot someone on his porch and then hung up."

"Hours later police found her body . . . "

This is confusing. When he called 911, did he give his name and address, or just report the shooting and hang up? Did he just leave her there on the porch and not make a full report to 911? If so, it does not bode well for him.
31 posted on 11/15/2013 9:59:40 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: cripplecreek

Finger off the trigger until ready to shoot is a lesson most people don’t get.

Holding a deadly weapon pointed at someone and your finger on the trigger means just a startled flinch and unintended squeeze of the trigger may be needed to kill.

Irresponsible gun owners make it difficult for everyone;granted irresponsible owners of other devices haven’t brought quite the same societal pressures(unless you count drivers’ licenses and mandatory car insurance).


32 posted on 11/15/2013 10:01:26 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Steve_Seattle

So he knew enough to call 911 after he shot someone.

Why didn’t he know enough to call 911 before he shot her.

That’s not good —


33 posted on 11/15/2013 10:04:06 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Dearborn Heights is relatively upscale compared to Detroit.

If I were the defense attorney I wouldn’t want to go to trial on this one. Better to plead no contest to negligent homicide, get a year to 18 months in jail and be out in 9 months plus 5 years probation.

In Michigan you don’t have to retreat but you better not have a door between you and the target when you do shoot.


34 posted on 11/15/2013 10:05:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

My mistake, I had the location wrong. Looking at the Wayne County demographics and the 80% black goes to 40%. I still think this guy is going to fall victim to anti-white racism.


35 posted on 11/15/2013 10:06:01 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Uncle Chip

My only sympathy for the accused is - he was at home, minding his own business, and the woman was out carousing, smoking pot, drunk driving, crashing her car, leaving the scene of the accident, and drawing him into a situation he never asked for, and now HE’S the criminal. He made a mistake, in my opinion, but this whole thing sucks.


36 posted on 11/15/2013 10:06:55 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Uncle Chip

Dearborn Heights demographics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dearborn_Heights,_Michigan#Demographics


37 posted on 11/15/2013 10:08:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

When did he call 9-1-1 ? And evidently that area’s system didn’t automatically show the caller name and address?

If he delayed the call or otherwise impeded the response,he is in for it.

And the poster who said he should have drug the body inside is giving out old and stupid advice. Blood isn’t that easy to remove and any evidence of a hurried wash job of the porch would result in tampering with evidence charge.

My prediction:

The homeowner had better plan to move to a new town when he gets out of jail because he won’t be permitted the legal ownership of guns after this. The lawyer fees will likely consume the equity in his home.


38 posted on 11/15/2013 10:09:39 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Steve_Seattle

He was in his house, probably woken up by the banging and screaming of a crazy woman, half-asleep and groggy he takes his shotgun to the door and it goes off, accident or not.

I agree with your sentiments


39 posted on 11/15/2013 10:14:19 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Steve_Seattle

It sounds like he was gripped by unreasonable fear.People in serious car wrecks are often bloodied and disoriented.And if he was awakened from sleep there is the possibility of disorientation. Which is another reason for NOT grabbing a gun until you are fully aware. Now if it should come out that he has been assaulted in the past by black persons that might be a defense.

I guess he COULD use Joe Biden for defense.


40 posted on 11/15/2013 10:15:54 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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