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To: Eaker

A dog operates on two things, fear and reward.

If you think a dog has manners, don’t train it, and see how it behaves. It has no conscience. Pavlov proved this.

They do not do out of morality, but rather from fear from their owner, or need for reward.

This is why the Bible says dogs don’t go to heaven. They have no free will to do good.

Take any stray, and without training, see how much morality it has and manners it has.

Humans are the only animal with morality.

It is what separates us from beasts.

Yes, I know crazy cat ladies who think their cats communicate with them and love them. Watch as their corpse sits dead in an apartment for 7 days. That can or dog will eat you to the bone.


105 posted on 11/15/2013 9:20:06 AM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: esoxmagnum

BTW, what kind of sick manners allows a dog to eat it’s living owners hands?

I’ll avoid that kind of “manners”

WTF?


106 posted on 11/15/2013 9:22:16 AM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: esoxmagnum

The Bible says nothing of the kind. You might want to do a little more reading of Scripture before making such a claim! Animals are the innocent ones. They pre-dated man in the Garden, and contrary to what mankind wants to believe, they were not created for him. They were created for God - as we are. There are numerous Scriptures in the Bible which point to the immortality of both: ALL of creation “groans” for the regeneration of the world in the end times when all will be set right (Romans 8:9). Additionally, God made a covenant with both man and animals (See Genesis and Hosea). There is no evidence that the Lord intended animals to be temporary and mankind to be the only eternal creature. The idea that only the redeemed can be in Heaven precludes the presence of the angels and God Himself! Ludicrous. Again, Scripture doesn’t claim that — except in the case of man. If God has not changed His mind about people being eternal, what makes you think he has done so about animals (who, by the way, are present in Revelation and clearly in God’s presence in the world to come.) If you don’t want to believe God’s Word, at least stop using it to claim things that it does not say! Animals are capable of great emotion, as science has proven. Your post is nonsense.


107 posted on 11/15/2013 7:42:55 PM PST by JLLH
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To: esoxmagnum

I hope you can cook as critical thinking is certainly beyond your grasp.

Please point me to that exact passage in the Bible too.


112 posted on 11/17/2013 5:47:31 PM PST by Eaker (Sweat dries, blood clots and bones heal so suck it up buttercup.)
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