Posted on 11/11/2013 10:35:15 AM PST by Kaslin
I must be a Heinleinitarian...I apparently don`t hate enough to be a conservative.
I like that, Heinleinitarian!!! Imma steal it!
You cannot lose what isn’t yours in the first place. You must woo and win the libertarian and independent voters. To do that, you really do need to think and act more like Ron Paul than Mitt Romney or (gag) Juan McLame. We independents do not OWE you our votes. To get mine, you had best be offering me a PROVEN limited/small government candidate who believes, as I do, that I am grown and fully capable of deciding what to ingest, who to hang out with and how to spend my own money. You must realize that the ownership of my body and life is NOT the affair of government by any stretch of anybody’s imagination. It is between me and my God. You must realize that limiting government to its Constitutional size and duties is an idea that flies VERY well with me.
But most alleged “conservatives” on FR these days are NOT limited government types, only statists who want to control DIFFERENT areas of my life than the other brand of statists. That is why you will wind up NEVER getting either my vote or the votes of the younger folks who think as I do.
Why vote for socialism-lite when the real deal is in the Rat column?
You may have heard of this old guy named Ron Paul...? Remember him? A bunch of us got behind him and were met with all kinds of cheating, last minute rule changing and other assorted tricks by the GOP-e. Not to mention the less than warm welcome we were given by GOP media outlets. And that we were more or less told to get out and not to let the door hit us in the asses on the way out. You guys got what you wanted...we left. Now y'all are mad because we haven't come back?
No, I do not know anyone who espouses any of that-I don’t live in NYC or LA, where I suppose rich dilettantes discuss that sort of thing at cocktail parties-the most august personages we have here are a retired General and his wife, their politics are the same as everyone else’s, and there aren’t any cocktail parties around here anyway.
Here in BF Egypt, pretty much everyone wants fed government to maintain a military to defend our shores, collect tariffs from trade, and deliver the mail-and they even do that rather badly. The people I know don’t think that personal issues are for the fed, but the states to mess with if they choose, and illegals are not even welcome in most rural areas-we don’t like law breakers.
Homosexuals traveling through are ignored-they don’t live here because they are shunned and not accepted at all, since the liberals let them “out”-before that happened, they weren’t here at all, that anyone knew of.
That was sarcasm my FRiend. I was pointing out that not all LP members march in lockstep, just like the GOP has folks not toeing the party line.
Ah! My favorite bully and stalker.
You are on my mental ignore list.
You still won’t answer, how do the feds not have to make decisions regarding homosexuality and immigration, and the military, and how do states not have to in regards to divorce law and adoption?
Praise the Lord that you still have that capacity.
You presumably refer to the Cross of the Christ when you call yourself its “servant.” So tell me, when Jesus gave His followers the great Commission, just exactly where did He tell us to use the force of government to deal with sinners? Isn’t that HIS job??? Yes, fine, government exists to ensure a means of dealing with murderers, rapists, INCLUDING child rapists, thieves, and so forth. These people harm others. SINNERS are God’s business, NOT the governments. And I KNOW if you’ve studied the Bible you also know that. You are far, far worse than liberals in your desire to control other folks’ lives.
I went to a few TP rallies. I agree with your assessment. My point is that in 2010 we had republicans, independents and LP types united, and we won. I believe we can unite on fiscal issues and win again.
Or we can fight and call each other names, and lose like 2012. I try to build coalitions around common beliefs. For example, in this article, the author points out that the GOPe alienated youngsters by calling the "tea party heros" whackobirds.
Do you want to gain allies who will vote for "tea party heros" or chase them off with insults? Just asking.
Jesus didn’t address a people who made their own culture, and society, and laws, and government by the vote.
If I asked Jesus, should I vote as a social conservative and traditional American, or vote to create a Sodom and Gomorrah, I wonder what he would say, don’t vote?
Libertarians don’t support gay marriage. They believe that government should get out of the marriage business. Why? Because any government powerful enough to enact your anointed view of marriage into law is also powerful enough to push homosexual marriage on the rest of us.
Limited government is the best government.
Please learn a little bit about the Libertarian Party before posting nonsense strawmen about what you think they might stand for.
Except for the military, and immigration, the constitution does not say the fed has anything to do those other items.
Every state has its own laws regarding divorce, adoption, etc, and that is as it should be-some states are community property states, some are not, etc.
I’m not a political science major and I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night-but I do understand the constitution, and I want to see it heeded and used.
I don’t care if it leans to the left or right, a nanny state is just that, meddling and micromanaging where it clearly should not, and using OUR money to do it...
The response is the same: Mental ignore list!
Resisting a political movement promoting abortion, open borders, drugs, porn, the homosexualizing of the military and the gay agenda, is not “insulting” them, and if it is, what do you care?
This is a conservative site, not a gay marriage forum, how can conservative political positions be the wrong ones here?
Ron Paul wasn’t the ONLY candidate that was mistreated by the GOP E and he wasn’t the only candidate that had to face all kind of rule changes and tricks.
No, I could give a rat’s ass if the Paulbots come back.
Cruz Fever...catch it.
So federal law applies to homosexuality, and so does state law, and you agree that is necessary.
Other than that, you just want to make the same general statements, and pretend that libertarianism is not pushing a leftist agenda of homosexuality, abortion, open borders and so on.
You sound just exactly like one a them whiney liberals. Whenever government is prohibited from interfering in our lives in some manner, some kinda how, that’s “forcing it down their throats.” Poor you. Learn to think for yourself for a change. Teach your kids to do the same. I promise, you’ll feel a whole lot better that way!!! Read and study your Bible, see what God has to say about trying to live others’ lives for them, then get back to me.
Yes, I'm sure it's convenient for you to ignore all the
people you have called socialist Godless faggot commies. Bitch.
Awesome little tactic you got there, call us all a bunch of dirtbags and then pretend to ignore the feedback.
You reap what you have sewn. And it ain't pretty.
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