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Tea Party at the Crossroads: Part II

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[ConorMacNessa]

They're not a "third party." They are a second party, in opposition to the dismantling of our Nation and Freedoms by the Marxist party of Obama and his RINO stooges.

America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

EAGLES UP! Once more unto the breach, my friends, once more!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

[Carry_Okie]

It was virtually inconceivable from the outset that the Tea Party could force the Democrats who controlled the Senate to pass the defunding bill, even if the Tea Party had the complete support of all Republican Senators — much less pass it with a majority large enough to override President Obama's certain veto.

Therefore was the Tea Party-led attempt to defund ObamaCare something that met Burke's standard of a "rational endeavour"?

Absolutely. As ZeroCare drives the middle class onto Medicaid, it will then be recognized as the only voice that truly fought this monstrosity. The only people who "suffered" during the shutdown were the bureaucrats who got paid vacations.

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[InMemoriam]

Third parties have had an unbroken record of failure in American presidential politics.

No. The Republicans were a third party, at a time when the Whigs had a record of electing presidents and controlling Congress. This is not to say that there are many exceptions to the assertation he makes, though.

[oldbrowser]

Therefore was the Tea Party-led attempt to defund ObamaCare something that met Burke's standard of a "rational endeavour"?

The republicans were clearly outmatched and the effort in and of itself was never going to succeed. However there is another possibility Sometimes a single spark can start a fire.

I recall that there was a man in a middle east country selling vegetables on the street to support his family. When the authorities refused to allow him to continue, he set himself on fire to protest what he could not control.

As it turned out, the public was so incensed that they overthrew the government.

[piytar]

Therefore was the Tea Party-led attempt to defund ObamaCare something that met Burke's standard of a "rational endeavour"?

Yes. It made pinning Obamacare on the GOP in general and Cruz in particular virtually impossible, which I believe may have been Cruz's goal all along.

[Amendment10]

I admire Mr. Sowell. But I did a Google search on Sowell and Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and came up with unrelated links, the section 8 related to housing. So like most other celebrity conservatives, Sowell evidently isn’t keen on Congress’s Section 8-limited powers. (Keen probably isn’t the right word.)

[Amendment10]

Regarding the Tea Party name, just as global warming alarmists extended the life, at least for a short while, of their junk science movement by changing the name of their agenda from global warming to climate change, I think that Tea Party is long overdue for a name change. I don’t have marketing training to volunteer a name that would hopefully stick to reducing the size of unconstitutionally big federal government, but here’s a college try.

I’m trying to encode Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8 limited power into an easy-to-remember acronym-like name, but that’s difficult.

CCAIS8LP (can’t even pronounce that)

But I’m sure that patriots get the idea.

[skinndogNN]

Why is he using past tense?

Wishful thinking?

[ez]

I respectfully disagree with Mr Sowell on this one. While it was not possible to overcome a Democrat Senate or quisling republicans, the value of the shutdown exercise was not in it’s potential for victory, but in its’ awakening of a sleeping American electorate. 2014 elections will define the success of that strategy.

[GOPJ]

Sowell has our best interest at heart - he’s one of us... That said, sometimes a tactic is to move the conversation on an issue to the right... and the Tea Party has done that.

[Reddon]

I disagree with Mr. Sowell on this one. It is probably equally impossible for an attempt to impeach Barack Obama to be successful. But it embarrasses me as an American that we won’t even try for that reason, we just sit on our butts and watch him destroy our great country because impeaching him is “impossible”. Ted Cruz is no dummy, he knew the odds as well as Mr. Sowell did about his efforts being successful. Yet I believe there is more honor in what Mr. Cruz did than what his gutless coward senior Senator John Cornyn did. I imagine John Cornyn will get some good mileage out of Mr. Sowell’s column today. Thank you for that Mr. Sowell.

[sickoflibs]

Sowell “The principle would justify repealing ObamaCare. So the only reason for the Tea Partyers’ limiting themselves to trying to defund this year was a recognition that repealing it w...as not within their power.
....With the chances of making a dent in ObamaCare by trying to defund it being virtually zero, and the Republican Party's chances of gaining power in either the 2014 or 2016 elections being reduced by the public’s backlash against that futile attempt, there was virtually nothing to gain politically and much to lose.
However difficult it might be to repeal ObamaCare after it gets up and running, the odds against repeal, after the 2014 and 2016 elections, are certainly no worse than the odds against defunding it in 2013. Winning those elections would improve the odds.”

Sounds like Thomas Sowell lives on the Planet Earth.

I heard part 1 of Mark Levin's rebuff a few minutes ago:

It went :

1) Those guys we hate said the same thing (???)
2) Wasn't the US Revolution impossible too? (???)

Oh brother!