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To: dadfly

For decades I have heard politicans talking about a new constitutional convention..The first thing that would change would be the bill of right and a liberal convention that no one would recognize as one of the USA. Plus it wouldn’t pass muster amongs the states.


92 posted on 11/08/2013 4:08:42 AM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

well, granny, i’ll try to give you some my reasoning as a conservative for having an article V convention under the Constitution:

first. the country is already gone and the status quo will not save it. i’ll put it this way. if you are a student of history, you’ll know who King George was. Currently, I’d be rather ruled by George III, then then our current oligarchic masters. his rule would be far more tolerable than Obama, Roberts, Reid and Boehner. That is how bad it is today. Tommorrow, it will be far worse, if nothing changes.

second. an article V convention was the founders own invention. they were and still are the wisest men ever to gather and invent a system of government.

third. any individual amendment will have to get 3/4 of the states to sign on before it passes. thus, the blue states are insulated from destroying the bill of rights. e.g., suppose they got the following somehow through the convention: resolved that we will strike the First Amendment. that will get about 10 states max out of fifty. not even close to the 38 states required. there are currently 30 or so states controlled by reps at this point. thus your worries about the convention are completely unfounded.

finally, even if they did gut the constitution, it wouldn’t matter. the constitution is already being ignored by all three federal branches of gov’t. the only branch that has really enforced the constitution in the last 100 years has been the executive, and that only under a very few presidents: Reagan, Eisenhower, Cooledge, and maybe Harding (despite his “scandals”).

In short, an article V convention is a no-brainer at this point in our history. It’s that now, or financial collapse and chaos in the near future.

ok, granny, take me on point by point and tell me where i’m wrong.


94 posted on 11/08/2013 8:02:56 AM PST by dadfly
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