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To: Olog-hai

Truth be told, Germany needs to again think of itself not as “just a member” of the EU, of NATO, of whatever, but as a unique nation.

After the Napoleonic wars, France also renounced its history and officially despised Napoleon Bonaparte in the nastiest of terms. So much so that there are entire libraries devoted to just him and his reign. Technically, he is the second most written about individual after Jesus.

It took almost 150 years (1815-1965) for the French to finally get around to thinking of Napoleon Bonaparte as a great French leader, even if he eventually lost and was deposed.

And eventually, the Germans will do the same with Hitler. It is almost an inevitability, once he and Nazism and the evil that they wrought, and their victims, are no longer in living memory. It has been 68 years, so it will not be long now where the process will *begin* to see history more objectively. Though generally speaking it is more likely that a 100 must pass before not just the victims, but their children, are mostly gone. This would be the year 2045.

But, in the meantime, Germans have to recognize that they are German, and that this has a cultural and historical significance as a people, completely apart from membership in any organization. A people with a benign purpose.


83 posted on 11/03/2013 8:11:27 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
You calling for Germany to be nationalist again? You do remember what happened last time that occurred, right?

Frankly, they do already see themselves as above the European Union; they certainly don't see themselves as European alone, but German. Their old Deutschlandlied has been performed in public quite a bit of late, to more than a bit of controversy. Quite a few articles have been written about Germany’s recent wave of patriotism.
84 posted on 11/03/2013 8:18:28 AM PST by Olog-hai
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