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To: vette6387
“There are very, very few legal AK-47s in California because Bertil-Roos went into effect banning assault rifles in 1988 or so - a time when virtually no AK-47s were in the country.”

That is NOT TRUE! I was at the range in Concord, CA today. The fellow at the next bench was shooting his AK47 that he told me was made in Serbia. Bertil-Roos banned specific “assault weapons” by brand/model, but not by type. He was using 10 round mags, which make the weapon legal. Same is true for AR-15’s. BTW, Santa Rosa is not a good place to be, but the cops in this sad instance are simply killers and it will be interesting to see if and how they weasel out of their crime here.


I am very familiar with California gun laws and I am also rather familiar with military rifles in general and the many variants of Kalashnikov series of weapons.

The pellet gun looks for all the world like a short barreled rifle (SBR) “krinkov” variant which is highly illegal in California fitted with a high capacity magazine which is also illegal in California.

The 10 round magazine has a much different look than the very distinct look of the full sized 30 round banana mag.

It also is missing the orange tip of the barrel , which is put on the pellet gun to help police identify it as toy or pellet gun. It looks like it might have been sawed off. This makes it look even more like an illegal short barreled machine gun with an illegal hi cap magazine affixed.

I'm probably far more familiar with the Kalashnikov series of rifles than most California police officers, and I could have mistakenly assumed the poor kid was carrying fully loaded AK-47SU in the heat of the moment

27 posted on 10/26/2013 2:16:21 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

I don’t care if it was real. The simple possession of a firearm is not justification for the death penalty.


35 posted on 10/26/2013 2:32:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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