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To: kabar
No question,the regime thinks they can start a civil war within the party which could save their bacon in 2014. We will probably fall into the trap since we(GOP) are politically inept and not getting any better.

It's up to us to point out the true jeopardy and true issues that can make our side and break theirs. We have no one else to depend on but the New Media.

Its always instructive to see how the DNC/MSM spins/lies their way through week to week. Currently this week DNC Dave seems invested in pointing out all the issues with O'care and how and what rush and the rest will attack his side on. If he can alert his buddies in the media/DNC, hard left, regime, "now" what we will attack later this week he will have given an early warning on which is the key point of his show anyway. ............. Maria Bartiromo CNBC's "Money Honey" apparently didn't get the message O'care not responsible for the U.S. as a part time employer,just too funny.

57 posted on 10/20/2013 7:40:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

It’s already begun. Conservatives who are waffling on Cruz and the shut down have to be reminded that the media will be lying about him to destroy our side. Just as they did with Sarah Palin and then the Tea Party; now it’s Cruz.

My own conservative brother has fallen for the media assassinations of Palin and has to be reminded how the media is lying to him on a daily basis.


66 posted on 10/20/2013 7:53:46 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: Believe spin and lies will save their corrupt party.)
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To: rodguy911

And the media not acknowledging Government is part of the problem of health care insurance only being available through employers. Republicans have better solutions in opening markets across states, health care savings accounts ect. Media not acknowledging that.

I remember well the days when some folks chose taking lesser paying jobs to get health care insurance.

Nowadays Democrats are allowed to force everyone into buying insurance. And it still isn’t so readily available, or even a viable plan. But as long as media can pass the impression all polls agree with Democrats...


67 posted on 10/20/2013 7:54:52 AM PDT by Son House (Democrats want you to use 'Great Recession' instead of 'Jobless Recovery', recession ended June 2009)
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To: rodguy911
What I am concerned about re Obamacare is that the Administration will win on their message that the sole criterion of success for Obamacare is the number of enrollees. This is clearly not the metric that should be used.

We know that the number of enrollees will rise as employers drop health care insurance and force their employees into the exchanges. Tens of millions will lose their employer-furnished insurance. It just makes good financial sense for the employers to drop healthcare insurance.

The real criteria should be how much will Obamacare insurance cost, the amount of deductibles and co-pays, etc. I suspect that the uninsured number will go up as people are priced out of the market. They will get insurance when they get really sick since preexisting conditions will no longer apply. And the cost of Obamacare to the taxpayers will skyrocket with the subsidies and a massive increase in Medicaid numbers.

And finally, as the government and the insurance companies suck up more discretionary funds from the consumer in the form of higher premiums, deductibles and co-pays along with higher taxes, our economy will suffer. The health care ecosystem is so complex and huge that we really will not know the unintended consequences of a government takeover of one-sixth of the economy. The roll out of Obamacare should give us a hint of how bad things will be when the government is in charge of such a complex program.

69 posted on 10/20/2013 7:59:45 AM PDT by kabar
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