[sickoflibs]

RE :”I am pretty sure that Bohner will do that on immigration. He wont put a immi-bill up without GOP majority support.
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I don't know what you are basing your view on, but I can tell you based on what I have heard from several Congressional offices over the past few weeks along with attending meetings where folks like Lou Barletta and Steve King spoke that we are on a razor's edge when it comes to a comprehensive immigration bill. “

Let me make it more clear. Two simple points.

1) Any immi bill wo path to citizenship would die in the Senate. So that is a safe poison pill. You said the Senate would pass anything, and I gave a clear example that they wont.,

2) Bohner will not put an immi bill up for a vote unless he has a majority of GOP. Not even after conference. He never made that same promise for those other 5 bills, but he did with immi-amnesty.

So those two together make it very difficult for Obama to get anything.

I am Not saying to not oppose a bill. Just telling you Obama has a huge climb with this one. Its not the shutdown battle.

[kabar]

1) Any immi bill wo path to citizenship would die in the Senate. So that is a safe poison pill. You said the Senate would pass anything, and I gave a clear example that they wont.,

Any bill coming out of conference will include a path to citizenship, but it may be contingent upon certain metrics. Once it gets to conference, the Gang of 8 takes over.

2) Bohner will not put an immi bill up for a vote unless he has a majority of GOP. Not even after conference. He never made that same promise for those other 5 bills, but he did with immi-amnesty.

As I indicated, there is a strong preference within the GOP for an immigration bill that will increase the guest worker program as well as the number of permanent legal immigrants. Depending on how the bill is worded, it could provide the cover they need for the majority to vote for the bill. One proviso that could prove pivotal is how strong the border control portion of the bill is written. It could lead to the majority of GOP approving the bill with amnesty being a trade off.

And lets be clear about amnesty. The status quo gives the Dem a win. Every year we bring in 1.2 million permanent legal immigrants. They vote two to one for the Dems. They are also 87% minorities as classified by the USG. In essence, we have the equivalent of an amnesty every ten years.

By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities. Each cohort that turns 18 every year becomes more minority and more Democrat. On the other end of the spectrum, each year every cohort that dies is mostly white and Rep. It is only a matter of time before the Dems become the permanent majority party. Unless we reduce legal immigration, the result is preordained. Amnesty just hastens the process.