[justice14]

Defund was a bad idea. Need to win 2014 and 2016 to truly get rid of this horrible law. Strength in numbers and we don’t have numbers. We have two MASSIVE roadblocks. Obama and Reid. Get rid of them, we win.

[dead]

Agreed.

There is not yet the political momentum to turn this tide. Cruz made a bold charge ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Well it's not over now! Follow meeeeeee....") but found himself largely alone.

The holdout more firmly cemented the Obamacare shoes on the Democratic Party. Let them try swimming with those on for a while.

[dforest]

You forgot immigration is up next. We won’t be getting rid of any of this.

[Weirdad]

You wrote: “Defund was a bad idea. Need to win 2014 and 2016 to truly get rid of this horrible law. Strength in numbers and we don’t have numbers. We have two MASSIVE roadblocks. Obama and Reid. Get rid of them, we win.”

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“Defund” was not only a good plan but the only constitutional and honorable thing that our elected representatives could have tried for! Anything else would be unconstitutional! It is treason to fund an unconstitutional law.

Pragmatically, name the last big government entitlement program that was gotten rid of. You can’t. America will not be re-trained to its orthodox American roots any time soon. Your plan is the bad one. Now it may be what we get stuck with now because of hesitant pseudo-conservatives and RINOs.

You can’t let cancer metastasize, you have to cut it out before it spreads.

Your plan to just accept Obamacare now and later repeal Obamacare if that happens will be contributing to America’s downfall. (By the way, that was already the plan before and it did not work.)

You watch at what will be happening later if this goes the way you are advocating.

[ExTxMarine]

I don't think Cruz's actions were harmful, nor do I think they were fruitless or a waste of time.

I think Cruz standing tall, screaming to America, "Look at this crap sandwich before you take a bite! I am trying to help you, the American people, but I got too many against me up here; you MUST put more people like ME in power so that we can accomplish what I am saying."

In other words, he took a bullet today and might have lost this battle, but by standing up and showing that he and a few others could use some more help, he might still yet win the war!

The GOPe has been fighting to lose in EVERY battle since 2006! Ted Cruz showed that with a few more fire-brand stalwarts to help him, he could WIN this war! We, the American People, could win this war!

I think Cruz was fighting to show Obama sucks, Obamacare sucks, the Democrats suck AND the damn GOPe sucks, too! I think he did that quite clearly!

[ssaftler]

We have two MASSIVE roadblocks. Obama and Reid. Get rid of them, we win.

You forgot NBC-BS, CBS-BS, ABC-BS, CNN-BS, PMS-NBC-BS, not to mention the political comedian/pundits Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert and Bill Maher. For those of you who DON'T live in bright red areas of the country, these outlets, along with their print partners, have done nothing but blame the Republicans in general and Tea Partiers in particular for the last 2 1/2 weeks of "massive government shutdowns".

Not to mention the gearing up of how the Wascally Wepublicans are going to force the entire world economy to collapse tonight when the overspending cap isn't increased by 60 ba-zillion dollars. Someone I know was convinced that the sun won't come up on Friday, the oceans will cover the entire continent and all senior citizens (she is one) will be left destitute overnight because the overspending limit isn't raised.