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To: flowergirl

>excuse me... the Senate isn’t all of Congress... you need the House...they are over the money

I’m glad someone finally mentioned this! Is it sad and quaint to insist that spending bills originate in the House per the Constitution?


30 posted on 10/16/2013 3:40:15 AM PDT by Datahead
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To: Datahead
Datahead, first of all the Constitution does NOT say that spending (appropriation) bills must originate in the House. It says bills for the raising of revenue must originate in the House (Article 1, Section 7). Not the same thing.

Second, even if it was true that spending bills must originate in the House, there have been many spending bills sent from the House to the Senate. All the Senate needs to do is take one of those and amend it to have everything they want.

That said, the point is still that the House needs to concur on any spending bill passed by the Senate. But at this point, the Republicans are so fractured (egged on by the media) that I am almost certain that the garbage bill from the Senate "deal" will pass the House.

The answer is not to call fire and brimstone on the heads of GOPe and RINOs. The answer is not to form 3rd parties that will (at best) win a few seats. The answer is to get more Republicans elected to both houses of Congress. If you have a Republican Majority Leader in the Senate and a Republican Speaker of the House, they control the agenda. I don't know if you noticed, but when the Demoncrats controlled Congress, they accepted a large number of more conservative (less liberal) members, because it gave them enough control to pass Obamacare, gays in the military and other such items. WE need to get the power to control the agenda to someone who has to listen to conservative voices - even if it means having Senator Collins as part of the coalition (do you think Maine or any of the Northeast states are going to elect Ted Cruz-types in your lifetime?). Fight in the primaries for the most conservative person who can win, then vote against the Demoncrats. Third party votes (or staying home) just lead to Demoncrat wins.

Wake up. This is a Constitutional Republic - you need to form coalitions with people who do not agree with you to get your agenda on the table.

32 posted on 10/16/2013 4:02:39 AM PDT by BruceS
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