To: SoConPubbie
This was not a wise move to begin with.
There was no way Obama was going to let his crown jewel be defunded, and no way to put leverage on him.
The Senate will not pass a bill that allows Obamacare to be defunded.
This was a very odd stunt.
10 posted on
10/10/2013 9:41:00 AM PDT by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum
conference committee was always the plan.
load the committee with RINOs and insiders and betray the US people.
12 posted on
10/10/2013 9:42:43 AM PDT by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: redgolum
This was not a wise move to begin with.
There was no way Obama was going to let his crown jewel be defunded, and no way to put leverage on him.
Another Surrender Monkey heard from.
The plan was never to get the Senate or the Zero to go along with this.
The plan was ALWAYS to DEFUND Obamacare, which it is the duty and responsibility of the House, constitutionally, to do.
Senator Cruz's plan was to send multiple CRs to the Senate, each funding single functions of the Government to the exclusion of Obamacre; by doing this, the Democrats and Zero own the problem of the Government Shutdown and the political pressure is on them to compromise.
The only other option is to sit in the corner wimpering about "How elections have consequences" and pretend they can do nothing about it which is a complete lie.
The house has the power of the purse, they can either do what they were elected to do, represent the people who sent them there and look-out for their best interests, or they can look after their own self-interests and their campaign cash.
The choice is real simple.
24 posted on
10/10/2013 9:47:42 AM PDT by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: redgolum
In that case, what options does the House GOP have in continuing this fight? If what you said is true, I am still not sure what they can do about it.
To: redgolum
It finally forced the enemedia to report on obamacare and report all of the negative garbage that it is. It caused obama’s approval to drop quite a bit. With the source code to their software now leaked by hackers... the entire system is unworkable.
45 posted on
10/10/2013 10:24:06 AM PDT by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: redgolum
Using your logic, we may as well go to one party rule.
53 posted on
10/10/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by
Red in Blue PA
(When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
To: redgolum
Too damn bad. KEEP the government partial shutdown in place while the American people slowly digest this nightmare. Who cares how long it goes on? Not me! BOb
58 posted on
10/10/2013 10:47:37 AM PDT by
alstewartfan
("Guardian angels, wherever you may be Reach down and keep my soul for me. Al Stewart)
To: redgolum
The Senate will not pass a bill that allows Obamacare to be defunded. Who cares, they can't spend it if the House don't say so.
There can be no default because the Constitution requires the debt to be paid.
Ever wonder why there is a debt ceiling in the first place?
Of course there is the chance that Obozo will just ignore the Constitution and the law in which case the House then has a duty, which they will likely ignore, but they have one.
Facts sure mess up these little surrender dances don't they.
67 posted on
10/10/2013 11:21:26 AM PDT by
itsahoot
(It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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