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To: Olog-hai

“PS. The EU was not necessary for anything whatsoever. Unless your goal is the destruction of the USA as a world power, as the EU’s founders was and is.”

Countries joined the EU for the same reason colonies joined the new United States; individually they are next to nothing, while together they are now a nation and the former nations are “states” in it. As an Irishman I understand what we lost, but we couldn’t be a farm forever.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 3:16:22 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

My fear is not that you’ve left the farm and joined a nation, but that you left the farm and become a vassal of German bankers and French bureaucrats.

The United Colonies that became the United States saw that problem, with Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Virginia being so populous, and the rest of the colonies so small, that they established a co-equal congress, with a Senate made up of two per state, regardless of population size, and a House of Representatives based on population, and an separate administrator, the President, with authority to enforce the laws the co-equal congress passed.

The parliamentary system is good for a single nation, because one side wins and is free to do its will, but in a collection of states forming a nation it has no built-in minority protection with a co-equal but separate branched government, like the United States. The current system puts Germany and France in perpetual charge, as they have the most people, and minority national rights be damned.


24 posted on 10/05/2013 3:31:52 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: kearnyirish2

That’s all false. For one thing, the states in the USA joined together because they were all one people; for another, the original Washington DC central government was nothing like Brussels’ authoritarian central government and actually guaranteed things like natural rights and separation of powers. The vast majority of EU citizens want to be separate from the EU and have their independence back; the EU is a project of the elites, by the elites and for the elites, with every step progressing towards totalitarianism (Barroso openly confessed that the EU is an “empire” six years ago, and the EU took away the privilege of habeas corpus five years ago by allowing trials in absence; there are lots of others).

The USA did not become a world power until the twentieth century. Before that, they were not seeking such a status, rather having it foisted on them. The EU openly proclaims its ambitions to be a world power, in opposition to the USA, and is a champion of the social market economy.

I am afraid you do not understand what Ireland lost, and that “farm forever” talk is insulting to the people who lost their lives to allow Ireland to become independent, by stereotyping them.


25 posted on 10/05/2013 3:32:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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