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American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene?
The Guardian (UK) ^ | Sept 21, 2013 | Henry Porter

Posted on 09/23/2013 6:42:07 PM PDT by Innovative

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

But no nation sees itself as outsiders do. Half the country is sane and rational while the other half simply doesn't grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights. We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery.

There is absolutely nothing he (Obama) can do, which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot stand idly by.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; foreignmeddling; gormless; guardian; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment; unitednations
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To: Innovative
Apparently, the writer doesn't realize that the greater pro-active response by would-be crime victims might change the numbers a little, for a while.

When criminals begin to consider that their line of work is becoming increasingly hazardous, not from a question of prosecution, but from the point of view that today's crime might be the last thing they attempt, then things might get a little more peaceful.

121 posted on 09/24/2013 12:21:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Innovative

The Guardian is a partner of UK Chatham House = US Council on Foreign Relations. They don’t believe in sovreignity ...they’re globalists. Once they implement healthcare - they’ve got our guns - they’ll own us.

6 corporations control 90% of the media:
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-the-illusion-of-choice/


122 posted on 09/24/2013 12:23:18 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: epow

178.00 at the Farm and Home store. Can’t beat it. My partner at work and I refer to purchasing mags, ammo, and other accessories as “making Obama sad”. Every time he orders a new magazine for his AR or whatever, I get a text saying, “I just made Obama sad”..


123 posted on 09/24/2013 12:41:43 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, America's first woman president..)
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To: Utilizer

Re your post 113, I sure haven’t forgotten the continuing saga of “loose” for “lose” and “there,” “their,” and “they’re,” and, of course, “it’s” for “its” (they seem to believe that every word can put in possessive form by an apostrophe and an “s”).

It’s as though these people have never sat down and read any published works. As you well know, reading published authors and paying attention as to how words are spelled in these works is the best way to learn how to spell.


124 posted on 09/24/2013 2:58:13 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Innovative
This is beyond belief -- the author advocates treating the US as some savage country, where international "intervention" is needed to save us from ourselves...

No, it's the logical extension of the US claim of a "right to protect", of all the stupid, "humanitarian" reasons for going to war put forward by the Bush-Obama administrations.


125 posted on 09/24/2013 3:12:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Innovative

Hey blue helmets,
Just come try to take my gun.
you’ll all make fine TARGETS.


126 posted on 09/24/2013 3:14:40 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: marktwain

He makes it sound like gun crime is up while other crime is down, when in fact gun crime is down too, even as gun ownership has increased.

If anything needs international intervention, it’s the barbaric British healthcare system.


127 posted on 09/24/2013 3:16:32 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Innovative

Found on another blog

I`m not the author of the line below.

“Which part of Europe are you from? the part who`s ass we saved, or the part who`s ass we kicked ? “


128 posted on 09/24/2013 3:23:52 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: OldPossum

My biggest pet peeve is then and than.. I think I see more of that mistake than any other :/


129 posted on 09/24/2013 3:26:12 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: OldPossum

sight,” “cite” and “site” on FR posts.

Maybe they do this on purpose to let spelling police have something to post about.


130 posted on 09/24/2013 4:00:13 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: SoldierDad

Who the hell is Henry Porter and who the hell cares what he thinks? If he wants our guns, come and take them. Oh, and tell him to be sure to bring the U.N. blue helmets with him, he will need all the help you can get.


131 posted on 09/24/2013 4:45:45 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Innovative
I don't give much credence to the opinions of sheep.
132 posted on 09/24/2013 4:52:36 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Bulwyf

So we lost the War of 1812 and we became a British colony again.

I never knew that, thanks for the info.


133 posted on 09/24/2013 5:55:52 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: bikerman

Yeah, smartass, that must be the reason. You’re so insightful.


134 posted on 09/24/2013 6:20:08 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: DCBryan1

Exactly. We don’t have a gun problem, we have an “Amish” problem.


135 posted on 09/24/2013 12:51:38 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: IMR 4350; Bulwyf

The War of 1812 consisted of three fronts: Canadian/U.S. border; Atlantic Ocean; The American South and Gulf Coast. The U.S. had victories against the British and their indian allies on two fronts, but were defeated in the Canadian/U.S. front. However, despite the defeat, the new Nation lost nothing in that theater with respect to land.

The War of 1812 was viewed as a second war for independence, and the U.S. soundly won that war.


136 posted on 09/25/2013 1:22:38 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

Yes we did.

If we hadn’t won that war we would all have bad teeth, speak English with a funny accent, be eating lousy food, playing Cricket and soccer, driving on the wrong side of the road, calling some two bit jack wagon Lord, and singing God Save the Queen or whatever that song is they sing.


137 posted on 09/25/2013 2:53:44 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Innovative

Boy, they just can’t get over the fact they lost the Revolutionary War.


138 posted on 09/25/2013 3:03:05 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Our Republic is dead. Revolution is all that's left. Kill the tyrants.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Excellent.


139 posted on 09/25/2013 3:04:44 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Our Republic is dead. Revolution is all that's left. Kill the tyrants.)
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To: DannyTN

I don’t believe them. According to the CDC, for 2010 the number of deaths by suicide (not list of how it was done) was 38,364 and that was tenth on the list. If you take out those using a gun then gun related deaths (homicide?) are much lower.

The list didn’t even have homicide in the top 15 causes of death.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm


140 posted on 09/25/2013 3:18:29 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Our Republic is dead. Revolution is all that's left. Kill the tyrants.)
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