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To: My Favorite Headache
Voting FOR cloture is the same as voting FOR the bill, even if the senator votes AGAINST the bill.

Everyone in the country should understand that. It's basic civics.

The other wrinkle, a very simple wrinkle, is that Cruz anticipates that Reed will add back Obamacare funding to the bill before sending it for a vote of the Senate.Therefore, Cruz says, GOP senators must vote NO on cloture, since there will not be 51 votes to defeat the bill, though only 41 NO votes are required to defeat cloture. Now Reed is also threatening to change the rule on cloture, but that is a different topic.

From this thread, it appears that MOST Freepers do not understand this. Any GOPe senator reading this thread will correctly think that we are lambs awaiting fleecing, that they will have nothing to worry about in voting for cloture and then against the Reed-modified bill.

Voter education is required and Cruz is the man to do it, getting the public to contact their senators. Last moment procedural steps by Reed, who controls the process, will make it necessary for Cruz's allies in the senate to tie up the Senate's business for a couple of days while he, Cruz, goes to the people.

Most importantly, Cruz, Paul and Lee, and hopefully others, need to get in front of the public now and explain how procedure in the Senate works. They can't just presume that the voter's eyes will gloss over, since the same trick will be used perpetually on this and other issues.

Public ignorance on this topic has resulted in countless lost Senate battles by conservatives over decades. This must stop and there is no more critical time for that awakening than to hamstring Obamacare.

79 posted on 09/23/2013 10:25:48 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

>> GOP senators must vote NO on cloture

No new knowledge here for FReepers. At least it shouldn’t be.


80 posted on 09/23/2013 10:34:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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